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I have the need to find out if there is some website that does translations. I have a gentleman in France that is writing to me about tomato's and this time, the message came predominately in French. I don't really have the capability to translate and he was able to let me know he speaks very little English. Is there a website that you can enter a text message to and it'll translate it? (I sure wish we had a universal translator................................) thanks for the help. madgardener (this is a serious request by the way)
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 23:48:20 -0500, madgardener wrote:

Could you please turn off the html posting. I comes through looking like this for most of us: <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
Yes there are translators out there. One of the better free ones is Babel fish:
http://world.altavista.com /
I would also strongly suggest that you look into the FireFox web browser. There is a plug-in that translate web pages right on the spot. Besides, Internet exploder is such a security risk now A days and it's such a non-compliant web browser to the w3c codes... It's not even worth turning on imho.
Stop over here and see if your browser is at risk for the new malicious code trojan: http://secunia.com/internet_explorer_command_execution_vulnerability_test / Good luck to you.
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Click on Tools > Options > Read uncheck the box marked "Read all messages in plain text"
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On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 06:32:46 -0500, Ricky wrote:

Sorry to say Ricky, that just won't work on my machine ;) The usenet has been a text only format for the past 25+ years. My news reader doesn't even have an html option. Seeing all the security issues that surround the windows O.S. and seeing how all kinds of evil scripts can be embedded into html, and seeing how *some* people on the usenet enjoy spreading viruses, why would anyone take that chance. You should always take great caution reading html messages in the usenet and in email....
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I agree. She need to stop the html postings. Her text is coming through as italics on my screen, which is very difficult to read. It also uses up much more space than needed.
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this for most of us <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"
<HTML><HEAD <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html;charset=iso-8859-1"
ok. there it is. plain text. no Comic sans script in italics, no bandwith being taken up. just plain old letters. I hope everyone who is still pissed at me for just liking to post in something other than ordinary letters will forgive me for this. My program allows me to select different Fonts and sizes and what not. I seem to have not realized that there were so many who were being offended, or put off from reading or participating in my posts because of my HTML postings. I've fixed it. And I'm not being sarcastic or defensive. I'd much rather get along than make waves.
madgardener slipping into lurk mode now. (thanks for the great resources for translating the text, by the way. I've bookmarked the site and am now cutting and pasting Christian's letter to me. )
Yes there are translators out there. One of the better free ones is Babel fish <http://world.altavista.com/ I would also strongly suggest that you look into the FireFox web browser.
There is a plug-in that translate web pages right on the spot. Besides, Internet exploder is such a security risk now A days and it's such a non-compliant web browser to the w3c codes... It's not even worth turning on imho.
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On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 22:18:11 -0500, madgardener wrote:

Twas not my intent to be rude and hopefuly you didn't take it as such. Html adds a some overhead to the nntp systems, but in todays broadband world, it's really not that big of a deal. Like I stated before, many of us non-windows users don't have access to news readers that will even render html, let alone post in it and many windows users use real news clients and their clients are the same way. Top posting, html posting clients are a confection of Bill Gates and people tend to do what the mail/news client does by default. Again, sorry if I came acrossed as gruff, wasn't my intent.
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not my intent to be rude and hopefuly you didn't take it as such. no, I didn't take it as rude.

non-windows users don't have access to news readers that will even render html, let alone post in it and many windows users use real news clients and their clients are the same way. Top posting, html posting clients are a confection of Bill Gates and people tend to do what the mail/news client does by default. I just found out that somehow Outlook express has altered the way I copy and paste comics that I send to myself and my son and friend. It used to go as JPG's and now they are converted to GIF and instead of a comic just being on the e-mail I receive (which was way easier to move to a folder I've marked "comics" for saving) it now has little red paperclips that say "GIF" next to them and when I click to open them, I get a warning first before opening them. And to add to my aggrivation, my husband now tells me that with regular upgrades that Microsoft offers on regularity, some of the security measures are so extreme now, they don't even allow some perfectly harmless e-mail to get thru. I want to get off the teat and get my computer on a better program. How I don't know. I have a bad feeling I'll have to start from scratch and get a new software and everything. plus backing up everything first so I don't lose what I have now. Bill Gates is evil for doing this. And before someone asks me where have I been. it sometimes takes me a bit to "get it". Like there are some things I can't send to my garden friend who has a MAC because his computer runs better. In fact, he's never had ANY problems with worms, viruses, trojan codes and destructive things sent out in the last seven years because he HAS a MAC computer and program. But I can't send him some things because his computer isn't compatable in some programs. very frustrating to me. It feels like I'm using a phone from 1930 trying to talk to someone using a can and a string.............(not a good analogy as his MAC seems to be far better than my IBM that uses Microsucks, and I have the Windoz 2000 XP pro version. Unable to buy a home edition to put on my machine because you can have home version on your computer and upgrade to pro, but not have pro and "downgrade".

I didn't take it as such. Hopefully my HTML has been turned off and this will come out as plain text. If not, just let me know and I'll go back into settings in my options and try again. madgardener (the BABLEfish worked wonderfully by the way)

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On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:11:58 -0500, madgardener wrote:

If your really in the market to make a move from Outlook, then check out this: http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/why /
This is a mail/newsreader that is very stable and secure. I hear tell that it will even import Outlook databases.
And while your at it you should take a peek at:
http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox /
I promise you, after playing with FireFox for a week, you'll never go back to Internet Distroyer 80) I'm in love with the tabbed browsing.
As far as you copy paste issue, maybe just attaching them to the email message instead of inserting them into the message body would help? I have my mail client ignore all html and binary due to security issues that can arise with embedded code. I tend to want to see what's in my message Vrs being shown my message.
If your looking for a big change away for Micro$oft, then you may want to look into mac. Mac just came out with a $500.00 system.
http://www.apple.com/macmini /
I'm thinking about getting one for my daughter due to it's small size. Will have to see if she can stand the mac os or not. Mac's also have tons of free software out there in the open source market.
Your friend shouldn't have too many issues now' day's with anything that you send him. Mac/linux support most everything now. With my linux system I can create and or read word docs, ms powerpoint.. etc with open office.
http://www.openoffice.org /
I can do everything with Open Office that a windows user can do with MS office.
If you think I write alot, you should hear me talk... Have a good day.
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On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:32:55 -0800, Timothy

I *love* Firefox. Have d'loaded Thunderbird, but I use a non-Outlook e-mail app already, and have been too lazy to explore it yet. I love how customizable Firefox is. I've got tools all in one place that used to require stept 1->27 to execute. Found a 'skin' that pleases me no end. I keep IE around because every so often, you run into a M'soft-dominated site that just won't play with anything else. However,
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