The Bright Side Of Global Warmth

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Thirty-years ago, we entered the "new ice age." Do you remember that scary cover of Time magazine and all the horrors predicted by the mainstream media? But a miraculous thing happened .... global warmth. Someone from up above heard our prayers and I for one am ecstatic. Anyone in his right mind should be. Anyone in his right mind prefers unseasonable warmth to freezing his ass off.
Thank you to the powers above and to all those who prayed along with me to be delivered from the "new ice age."
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It's not the cold so much as shoveling 4 feet of snow that makes winter suck. Guess which is caused by heat?
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Sure.
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Good man. Thanks.
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Yup. I've seen him around before this instance and he does that all the time.
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Not really, it's bullshit pseudo "science" being used for socialist redistribution of wealth and power. See? How simple is THAT?!
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School holidays seem to have started early.
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Close, but no cigar. Socialist politics aka Fiscal Liberalism is all about redistribution of wealth and power. Climate change is very real. The problem is that fiscal liberals want you to believe that the change is caused by human behavior.
Keep in mind: Fiscal liberals are liars who teach their children how to lie.
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You know you are dealing with a religious issue when either side cannot accept that their opposition acts in good faith and must be liars. But this is how the climate change debate is conducted in the USA. Pile on as much emotion and as few facts as possible, a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
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It's something that really does irritate me because it makes it so much harder to correct or castigate people when they apply the usual stereotype to Americans.

And to you and yours David.
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There are a lot of climate change deniers in myriad countries- even some Bengali's who are already wading up to their navels. Whether and how much human activity contributes to global warming is of great economic importance to those who profit from extraction industries and so we have impossible to refute arguments akin to those promulgated by cigarette sellers- Maybe people with pre cancerous lesions are more likely to smoke because it makes them feel better- There is no climate debate in America. It must be very difficult for those on the outside looking in to come to grips with Americas religiosity and how it impacts our politics. To a coal miner in West Virginia, with no other reasonable source of income, God put that coal in the ground for him to dig up.
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Oh? Are those the people who live on islands that are 3 feet above sea level and flood whenever the weather gets stormy? The ones who are cynically being used as poster children by the MMGW - "Man Made Global Warming" whackos?

Yes, and if the liberals REALLY gave a crap about anything BUT Marxist redistribution of wealth:
"There is enough nuclear fuel to last far longer than man will inhabit the earth." - Physics Professor Emeritus Dr. Howard Hayden, author of The Energy Advocate
ALL SAFE AND CLEAN, WITH MODERN PRE-PACKAGED PLANT DESIGNS.
But of course the liberals hate everything human and no energy solution is acceptable. We all must revert to naked savages picking berries in the fields, for these whackos to be happy!
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Jane Galt wrote:

This is further confirmation of my original post, there is no need to keep producing more examples as I understood you the first time. You pretend that you are somehow saying something about climate change, all you are doing is hurling political slogans at your imagined opposition. A waste of typing.
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When will it be safe for the farmers of Fukushima to resume their livelihood, and grow non-toxic crops again?
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Billy wrote: ...

depends upon who and where.
one plan puts clean up at 40 years.
if i were an older person without children it wouldn't make that much difference as hot spots can be detected and cleaned up before a garden could be used.
for younger people who are hoping to have children i'd wait...
right now with the plant still being a possible source of more leaks it is too risky to be too close. i wouldn't want to be any place within 10 miles in general and probably further away if it were down wind of prevailing winds.
still, the country of Japan with such limited land area it would make more sense to get on top of this sooner rather than later to get the land back into production.
i'm a bit more worried about what has been and might be still dumped into the sea. a contaminated fish can swim a long ways before being caught.
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I was thinking of farmers, not gardeners, Bird. Yeah, ma, and pa may be too old to worry about getting cancer in 20 years, but farmers sell to the full spectrum of society from geezers to those who are pregnant. All the released radiation will have a statistical effect on large populations, and devastating effects on those affected, for generations to come.
The newly elected prime minister of Japan, Shinzo Abe, said that he will seek to build new nuclear reactors, which will be completely different from those at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant. I guess the acid test is whether the private companies, like Tokyo Electric Power Co., will take responsibility for insuring their nuclear power plants for public liability, or will they depend on the government, as here in the U.S., to cover their liabilities.
Been having line problems with my DSL, so while I have the opportunity, I'd like to wish all you gardeners a Happy New Year.
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Billy wrote:

this really depends. like i said above. one area may have enough radioactive particles as to make the topsoil unsafe for workers or anyone who might ingest the dust. other spots may not be so much that it would be all that different from background radiation levels of any volcanic origin.
and the fun part is that it really depends upon not only how much radiation is there but what kind of particles are giving off the radiation. some particles will be made up of elements that will decay within a few years time. others are going to be there for ever.
for the worst areas they could take the top layer of soil and invert it so that it is below the most biologically active zone (depends upon frost/thaw cycles and the fauna that moves soils). more moderate to lightly contaminated areas are likely too expensive to cleanup and could be turned with a deep plow and then used without too much of a problem.
ok, so to go a little further you have to also look at each plant species to see what they take up. some will not take up much at all. turn the soil deep enough and plant shallow rooted plants and that could easily cover 90-99% of the area affected for not much $. the rest of the 10-1% is where the big $ will be spent and much of it will be wasted.

i hope the design is safe and they don't build the things close to the ocean, fault lines or other populated areas... which for Japan pretty much rules out all of it.

thanks! it's been a riot so far.
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Yeah, that was a 70's technology plant, under conditions that were unimaginable then.
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It's a solution without any problem.
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Who was harmed by it?
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