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Saw an ad on TV a little while ago... a lot of scare tactics about without this you're going to starve... I don't respond well to scare tactics. But they didn't offer a price on TV so I took a look-see... anyone have comments? http://www.survivalseedbank.com /
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brooklyn1 wrote:

An amazing mix of truth, half-truth, lies, propaganda, religion, politics, wisdom, contradiction and nonsense. You could call it sales-speak.
For a "survivalist" the selection is odd. Too many are summer annuals, you are going to get very hungry in the cooler months and there ought to be more staples and things that will keep. Why on earth do you want cucumber and two kinds of lettuce (low food value) but there is no pumpkin or potato (high food value and keep outside the fridge)?
It is a lot of money to spend on seeds unless you know and trust the source. The average gardener would take years to use all these. I thought they were pushing these seeds being heirloom which implies true breeding, seed saving etc, why then do you need a supply for five years, assuming they will last that long?
If it were me I would save my $164, spend much less on a sensible quantities of seeds that are more suitable and rely on Worldnet Daily for entertainment while waiting for the rapture.
David
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Indeed. And who needs 5 years worth of seeds when the world ends in 2012?
Paul
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Well, in keeping with this is a cheery crowd, <
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grQf9OOphFs
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Well, do I have an offer you fellows.
For those that get taken up in the Rapture. I Dan the atheist will take very good care of any animals that get left behind that belong to you. Just mail me a check for $2,000 US dollars and your home address (optional) for this great offer of Pet Rapture Insurance :)
As for the 2012 theory no one is left behind to take advantage of :(
One side question: Can't one freeze seeds that will last as long as the power holds up?
If so I will stock up on the seeds and ammo. Personal insurance when all the currencies in the world collapse and gas will not be available.
Like the video - Just me and the dog in my bunker with world falling apart around me :)
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Thanks Dan, I'll sleep better just knowing your there (and I'm here ;O)
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I grew up at a time when the only food we had on the table was that which we planted, weeded and harvested ourselves. Dad had beef cattle so meat was a plenty.
The seeds scare is just that. What town doesn't offer little plots to their citizens so that they "can grow their own food and have enough to give to their neighbors"? But that's mainly for people who finally figured it out it aint a bad thing to get dirty hands now and then.
My frig this winter will be full of berries for just about every pie you can think of except lemon. And seeds? The only kind I buy are in bulk and I can mixed them with something else and I get a nice crunchy snack.
Militia's in the past were protecting the right to bear arms; I won't disagree with that. But now we must sow to reap? I'm still reaping from that which was stolen from me; and yes, that's a sentence that will not make sense unless you wear size 8.5 and bought them on sale.
Just when I thought I'd heard of everything, survivalist seeds makes its entrance.
And it's Dec 21, 2012 that the Maya's calender stops. Doesn't say the world will end; just that is as far as their calender goes.
Donna in WA
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I would say with the rampant rise of the paranoid nutcases in this country lately it only makes sense to market to them. I love the containers, you can bury them so the Feds won't confiscate your seeds. Nice garden pics, wonder where the machine gun nests and gun towers are.
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They are very expensive based on prices that I can buy heirloom/heritage/open pollinated seeds for in Australia.
I did a quickk count of the seeds they were selling and got 22 packs of seeds - If I bought the same varieties in Oz, I'd pay just $58.75US from the cheapest seed supplier for the same vegetables (but perhaps not the same vaireties) but I'd have a wider range of choice.
Just in case you're interested, these are the major heritage seed suppliers I can access: http://www.edenseeds.com.au/content/default.asp http://www.thelostseed.com.au/index.htm http://www.diggers.com.au /
BTW, did they mention that the 2 varieties of corn shouldn't be planted close to each other?
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FarmI wrote:

You elitists just don't get it. Getting all wrapped up in technicalities and alleged facts.
<quote from ad>
Remember, non-hybrid seeds can be grown practically anywhere and have the ability to assimilate mineral and trace elements from the soil that man made plants just don't seem to have. That's because they were created by God as we read in Genesis:
And God said, "Let the earth sprout vegetation, plants yielding seed, and fruit trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind, on the earth."
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Seems so simple, now that I've had it explained to me! If you want to be saved you have to trust in the Lord and send in the check.
Jeff
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Nonsense, I have no doubt man can make engineered plants that can assimilate mineral and trace elements from the soil. If God can do it, I can do it. *** note - first prove to me that A GOD did it :)

Nonsense again. Plants evolved from a simple to a more complex form. A God had nothing to do with it.

Send me a check also, I will take good care of your fido when Jesus returns. Also I can send you some nice heirloom seeds incase of economic demise for a nominal cost. Good to profit of others fears or stupidity :)
Jeff sounds like a minister, if you want to be saved send him some money! Religion is the biggest scam in existence!
Unless Jeff is a sceptic and a cynic like me :)
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Dan L. wrote:

Yes, yes. Send money and I'll put in the good word. Your satisfaction in heaven guaranteed. For a little extra, I can get you front row seats, and for you power players, a photo of yourself with the big man himself.

Who, me?
Jeff
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Oh, goody, a pair of heretics. I wonder who I can get to go to the burning with me . . . hmmmmm?
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A thunderstorm with lighting all around me is happening as I type this!
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I didn't say it in my other post and should have, I would support anyone growing these types of seeds as opposed to hybrids. I really don't understand why people would bother to buy hydrids bu assume that they haven't done sufficient research on yields, harvest and flavour.
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Don't hurt me, love, but there is such a thing as hybrid vigor, at least with corn. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterosis#Hybrid_corn or is this just a bunch of hooey (waffle)? I agree about the flavor, but our (US) sweetest corn is F1 (Sweet to the point that you feel like you are sucking on sugar; not my favorite.). Then there is Early Girl tomato (F1) vaunted by Chef Alice Waters, but after that, I can't think of any other argument. With other fruits and vegetables heirloom (open pollenated) plants seem to be best. What really gets me narked is having to buy new seeds every year for F1s. In a survival situation, that probably wouldn't be an option.
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Indeed there is such a thing as Hybrid vigour but I really do hope that you aren't saying that hybrid vigour equates with the best flavour, the best yield and the longest period for harvest. I'd be very surprised if you did. Mongrels have a use and that is why I mentioned homework.
I agree about the flavor, but

LOL You don't like it but you think that its a good example of F1????? Pay attention to what you are trying to argue here Billy!
Then there is Early Girl tomato

Who is Alice Waters and why would what she thinks about one variety of tomato be important to you? But even more to the point, since I have never heard of her, why do you think that what she thinks should be important to me?
With other fruits and vegetables heirloom (open

Yup. If the poop does ever hit the fan then corn will be the one crop that I would miss as it's at total bitch from which to save one's own seeds.
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Thanks, and don't change :O)
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THe supper sweet corn is for the mass market. As soon as corn is pulled the sweetness clock is ticking. For home garden use the f1's are way to sweet and losses that corn taste. I will go for the plain heirloom sweet corn and as the saying goes... "Pull the corn when the pot is boiling".
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A simple joy is to walk about the garden thinking deep thoughts while munching on asparagus. Latter tomatoes and corn offer the same deep insight into the nature of life. Thank God for the quick greens that jump out at us after a winter of reflection on what to ask to grow.
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