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(huge sigh......................) well friends, today was a waste of time, my dwindling money and as good as this heart specialist is, I am beginning to wonder if I am losing my mind. Here's how it went today...I have had one of the most stressful weeks this week, which I've taken in stride. I have dealt with it. I haven't gotten upset, and thru all of the mental and physical exertions, I still had pressures around my chest area, tingles in my hands and feet, and have been more than tired.
This morning was a nightmare out of my departed father's life because I woke up smothering. Literally gasping for air because my throat was closed almost completely shut, and it was a strain to get anything in. It seemed like it took forever to get a breath. It scared the hell out of me and made me realize I could die in my own bed and no one would hear me as oldest son was dead asleep in the back room, youngest son I thought had gone to work but was outside in the driveway just outside my bedroom window on the phone and wouldn't have heard me because I couldn't make a sound.
(My dad suffered from severe asthma, complications from poisonings from breathing chlorine steam in dishwashers and emphasema (?sp). He smothered all the time and was on an aluphent machine as well as taking prednasone.) Squire had already gone to work. After I got my throat to open up and actually breath, I was alright, but extremely sore. My level of tiredness was incredible despite that I had finally caught up on sleep after being deprived of it for almost 24 hours.
When I went to the doctor to get the stress test results, he informed me that I had 85% chance of no heart problems. But when I asked him about my lungs or checking me for thyroid problems, he said I didnt' exibit signs of gall bladder which was odd, and that I could even possibly have a hiatel (?sp?) hernia. But check me for it? no......just hinted at it, maybe. and he'd see me in six months.
He also told me I needed insurance. I informed him we made too much for TennCare health insurance, noneligable for Medicaide, and because I was working part time for Lowes, unable to get insurance thru work. He then tells me to apply at the Home Depot down the road that is hiring, and insist Lowe's puts me on full time.......I told him I wasn't interested in working at Home Depot, and it wasn't even open yet, even if I had been interested adn that I HAD requested full time months ago, but you start out part time unless there is a position open for full time. And now that we're in the time when hours are being cut anyway, my chances of working full time were slim until the start of the new year and closer to when I have made it to my first year which will be in February. He said I obviously wasn't interested in getting insurance which would be the first priority on his list if he were me and I should do anything I could to get it. LOL He's a doctor, he makes a good income, and he's from another country living a lifestyle that anyone would love to be living at the moment. He's not in the position where jobs start at minimum wage and it would take two or three of them to make enough because no one is hiring full time. (part time is less benefits to spend on employees, not that Lowe's does that, but most all the jobs here only hire at part time and they all start at $5.25 an hour or a little better) None of this solved anything, and all I managed to do was not get answers, run up another bill, pay $10 on a bill that will most likely be incredible, and when I told him my chest still hurt, and why was this? he tells me I need a primary physican.
I give up. I swear people this is pure bullshit. I am not a hypocondriate. they have medical insurance. I don't like to be sick or in pain, and when I am, I am usually quiet about it unless it's something serious like now. I am no martyr, but I have been known to work with pneumonia because I felt fine until the doctor told me it would affect my heart, then I went home and to bed. I had insurance then. I don't have an option for returning to the warehouse from hell where I HAD medical insurance because I like my job at Lowe's despite my hours, and come full season, I will be working hard like I did these last five six months. Even my part time hours were 39 to 43,
I wanted to get snippy at the doctor sitting there suggesting all this crap to me, but instead I just asked questions and he fielded them quite nicely. When I told him I thought I needed to lose weight, that it wasn't doing me any good to weigh as much as I do with my frame, he said rather nocholantly, well yes, you could, and that would mean cutting out bread, potato's, all carbs, sugars, and pasta. It's all up to you and it might not make a difference even if you did lose weight. You'd probably gain it all back again anyway.
So here I sit, a crushing pain in my chest as I write, the back of my throat feels like I have a rock in it, no primary care physican to speak of yet all around me poorer people than me and my husband get top notch medical help because they somehow find a way to get the system to work for them. I've been going at this all wrong people. I've been honest about our income. Honest about my basic bills. About the money we make that doesn't make ends meet. Life goes on. Today was a total waste of my time and efforts.
I am NOT going to bother ya'll again with this, if something happens I will let you know. I have a bad feeling there is something wrong that they're missing and it's going to take me almost dying to find it. I hope not. The episode in the ER was frightening and they still didn't reach conclusions. SOMETHING sent my blood pressure up over the stroke level. That just doesn't happen. And I'm normally stressed all the time, so I have to say that despite my age, stress can't be what's causing this or I'd stroked out years ago when we were going thru bankrupsy, our house was burnt down, we were starving and living in an unheated house with only kerosene for heat and had $11.66 a week to live on. Somehow I will get thru this and SOMEONE will find out what's wrong or I've gone totally insane.
Now I apologize for going off topic, I love all you for your concerns, but this is taking up too much space and time and we have garden things to talk about here. I hope all of you are doing well and that those that do it, have a wonderful Thanksgiving. My love comes out to all of you.
madgardener
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HI mad, I'm very sorry for the health troubles you're experiencing - and that you didn't get a sympathetic ear from the doctor. Who was the famous doctor who wrote that every physician ought to suffer from a serious illness before he/she started practice, just to learn how vulnerable patients feel? Anyway, I have two suggestions, which might turn out to be lame or fruitless. One would be to try to contact the nearest medical school or teaching hospital to you - maybe in Nashville? Explain your story, your lack of insurance, and the fact that you have no history of hypochondria, and ask them if they have any kind of diagnostic training center or some other program where people like you might be able to receive treatment. Another solution might be to contact the benefits/social worker person at your nearest hospital and ask for an interview. Sometimes it takes a person who has to go through the hoops every day to figure out if there is some kind of program available to folks like you. If none of this works, I would contact my local congressional representative - and maybe a state representative too. If I were from Tennessee, I might even try to contact Al Gore. Good luck.
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Hi I was just wondering how you were doing. The doctor sounds like a real butthead to me. (I have dealt with many such in the medical profession) When I was going to the ER every other week for my throat swelling shut my doctor told me to take a benadryl as soon as I noticed the swelling starting.
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wrote:

First let me say, and i am putting lots of emphasis on this, I DESPISE YOUR DOCTOR. I had to pause in my typing to make fists and clench them. The other thing i wnder about is if you did not have an anxiety attack when you woke up unable to breathe. (I AM NOT A DOCTOR!) Anxiety and panic attacks can mimic coronaries and a host of other things. Medical doctors seem not to know about this. I do not think you are losing your mind. My Dad had Panic attacks which were often treated in the cardiac emergency unit of various hospitals. he died in his sleep a few months short of 100. Please keep us informed, i get a strong feeling you are very important to the folks here, who would not be happy if you stopped reporting in, i know i waited to hear the results of your tests. this bidnezz of laying odds (85% chance nothing wrong!!!! ) is a very silly way to render a medical diagnosis in my opinion. it is like a freakin' weather prediction, possibility of rain or something! I rage against the storm! I also have no health insurance, a handful of specialists to whom i go and no so called primary care physician. All I can say is thank G-d for Vet supply catalogs!
snipped-for-privacy@endangeredspecies.com ps i do not advocate self medicating by the way, but i ran out of amoxycillin and could not get any of my specialists to write a script for it, i take it before my teeth are cleaned, routinely.
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This could be sleep apnea. If you are overweight, lose the excess as soon as you prudently can. There is a direct correlation between obesity and apnea.
It is also one of the effects of thyroid imbalance, due to the swelling of the tongue and throat tissues caused by the thyroid problem.
J. Del Col
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On 21 Nov 2003 06:46:21 -0800, snipped-for-privacy@mail.ab.edu (J. Del Col) wrote:

Thanks J. I will keep this in mind. time to hunker down.... I appreciate everyone's concern and I'm not shining it off. Things are cranking up here on the massive scale now. I will keep ya'll posted as I can.
madgardener
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hey Mad.. i'm mad, too , after reading your post! grinding teeth mad.. i have a friend who was in a similar position. husband retired early from a lucrative business, owned a beatifull house paid for, but he became ill and between that and unplanned necessary expenses on home.. had to have new cesspool, had to have house leveled so bricks wouldn't fall off... big money.. anurism in vein near heart.. high dollar surgery and recupe... took nearly all they had left for retirement.. too young for social security.. both unable to work full time, him not at all as his health deteriated rapidly after the surgery.. no insurance, his insurance expired as it was a group ins under is company and that time was not transferable .. both were now uninsurable.. they had a hard row to plow. . ..i could go on but ...
any way, have you checked with Human resources? they may be able to direct you to some help. in our area we have a free clinic for folks who are unable to afford medication and you may have one in your area. ours only has open house once a month but it helps a lot of people. I am a volunteer and i can see that these clinics are really helpful.
several of the posters have mentioned panic attacks. Ivan 78 years old, was having trouble with severe stomach pains, out of breath, cold sweats, weakness, nausea, dizziness.. the times he had these attacks was when we planned on him going somewhere. i began to suspect he was having panic attacks, as he definitly does not want to go anywhere.. he likes it at home.. and he wasn't puttiing on.. no one can 'put on' a cold sweat with pallor.. and so i explained to him that he doesn't have to go any where he doesn't want to go and i don't push him and do not make him feel guilty for not wanting to go and he has been just fine ever since. there are all kinds of reasons that can set off an attack and it is a very reall thing and is not a sign of hypochodria. i , too, am not a dr but one does learn a few things if they live as long as i have whether they have been to medical college or not.
please try to check out the human resources in your area to find what alternatives you might have. let us hear from you.. please.. we love you and hope for only the best for you. and no, i don't think you are losing your mind. i've been there, done that.. not lose my mind, but was almost convinced by the looks and attitdes of the 'professionals' that i was.
love.. lee h aka Leona

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Hi Mad, I am sorry to hear you're going thru all this shite! If I were you I would be looking for another doctor - I know the insurance is an issue right now, but you seem like you may have something very wrong here and this doctor seems to not care about it at all.
LeeAnne

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That's exactly what the cardiologist advised M to do:

Janet.
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Sounds like the doctor was trying to do you a favor - he probably realizes you have a serious illness and was, in his way, hinting that you should get health insurance before being diagnosed. That way your condition would be covered (it wouldn't officially be pre-existing).
- Spellcheck
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On 11/24/03 4:42 PM, in article AXuwb.223681$ao4.806202@attbi_s51,

Good point! Cheryl
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