magnolia tree


We have had a magnolia tree in the ground about 4 years now. It was about 6 feet high when we planted it, and now it is probably over 8 feet. Every year it gets new growth but no flowers. Is it still too young? Is there some type of fertizilizer that I should be using to encourage flowering?
Ed Christie
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Magnolia can take up to 10 years to come into flower, depending on the variety.
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You don't say where you are located or the type of magnolia, but you should be aware that some forms of early blooming magnolias can have their blossoms damaged by late frosts. And as the other poster stated, some species can take a considerable time to reach flowering maturity, however many of the more popular, commonly sold species (x soulangiana, x loebneri, stellata) will flower at a very young age. They also tend to be the ones most often affected by cold damage to flower buds.
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I bought one in bloom to plant out in the burbs. a soulangiana. I put it behind a row of trees that would shade it early in the year and it is more of an understory tree and it has always bloomed later than others I see plunked out into the middle of the lawn. no late frost damage. Milwaukee is full of soulangiana because the lake moderates the temp and last frosts are unusual.. drive 15 miles west and they get hit pretty bad.

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I planted a soulangeana (rustica rubra) in 1997 which was a good-sized balled-and-burlapped number which failed to bloom for six years. (We moved away from that house in 1999 without ever seeing a bloom). However, it grew very well. Finally the past two years it has begun to bloom, with quite beautiful large blossoms. It is now about 10 feet tall with nearly the same spread. It was not a case of winter-damaged buds, because the flower buds develop in the fall, and they were never present in those earlier years. However, I'm grateful I'm not living there, because the blooms appear much lighter pink than I had envisioned. I have been searching for a long time for a beautiful large tree-sized cultivar I passed regularly in Tallahassee, Florida, with deep purple buds, which opened deep purple - not pink - like beautiful purple tulips.

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Lilliflora nigra comes close to what you want. It also blooms at a young age.
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I'm aware of liliflora nigra, but this was quite a large tree - at least 25 feet tall with a single trunk, while liliflora is usually shrubby and multi-trunked where I have seen it.

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Could this have been Magnolia 'Galaxy'?
http://www.usna.usda.gov/Newintro/galaxy.html
"The National Arboretum presents Magnolia 'Galaxy', unique in form and flower among cultivated magnolias. 'Galaxy' is a single-stemmed, tree-form magnolia with ascending branches, the perfect shape for narrow planting sites. In spring, dark red-purple flowers appear after danger of frost, providing a pleasing and long-lasting display. Choose 'Galaxy' to shape up your landscape!"
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Thanks for the link, but, no, I don't think it was this tree. First of all, the tree I'm talking about was full-grown in 1992 when this cultivar was released. No, it must be an old but rare cultivar of Magnolia soulangeana. Some descriptions of M.s.Lennei mention deep purple buds, but I have never seen it in flower to compare with my memory, and I have never seen it for sale in a nursery. What always struck be about this tree, other than the dark purple buds, is that it didn't give the pink and white impression that almost all saucer magnolias make when most of the flowers are fully open, but stayed in that darker color range. I'm even wondering if it might have been some cultivar of magnolia campbellei.

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gregpresley schrieb:

I'm pretty sure it was a M. campbellii hybrid: Possibly one of the new Jury or Blumhardt hybrids like 'Vulcan' or 'Black Tulip'. Have a look at http://www.magnoliastore.com / Gotthelf
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Thank you for that link, Gotthelf. The plant I remember looked VERY MUCH like the black tulip variety pictured on that site. However, I last saw it about 9 years ago, preceding the release of that cultivar. But that is the exact look of the flower - purplish red inside and out. It's spectacular. I'll have to see whether this "black tulip" variety will ever be released in the US.
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gregpresley wrote:

Hello, you are right. "Black Tulip" is an eye catcher. This Cross was made by Jury, New Zealand. Other hybrids produced by one of the Jury's like "Apollo" or "Athene" are readily available in your country. So I expect this one also to be on sale. Did you check the nursery list of the magnolia society? http://www.magnoliasociety.org/source_list.html Gotthelf -- G. Wolmershaeuser snipped-for-privacy@chemie.uni-kl.de
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