Killing a tree.

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I have been told that to kill a tree I have to drill a hole 6" deep and 1"diameter into the trunk near the base and fill it with copper sulfate and then seal the hole with a wooden plug.
Can any one advise me if this is true?
Peter
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Peter Jason wrote:

Who's tree is it?
Best regards, Bob
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Well, it's not mine, and discretion is in order. The wooden plug will cleverly disguise the hole. Do you think the copper sulfate will zap it?

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You better have a very good reason to go around killing other people's trees. Don't expect any advice until you clarify this. I would also like to know why you are killing a tree.
Sherwin D.
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No that won't do, you will need some nitro-glycerin-soaked cardboard, and a lit cigarette.
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Well the thing is lifting the pavement and its roots are crawling into my drains and blocking them.
Also it is sucking all the water from the subsoil under the house and cracks are appearing in the walls.
I want to get rid of it before something catastrophic happens!

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Peter Jason wrote:

Then talk to the owner of the tree.
If something catastrophic happens that they could have prevented, they may have liability. That liability is their incentive to deal with the problem.
The consequences of committing a criminal act should be your incentive to not vandalize someone else's property. Also, if something catastrophic happens because you killed the tree, guess who the liability shifts to.
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Like a dead tree falling on your house?
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I suggest you talk to a lawyer, you may find you have legal recourse under the laws where you're at. If you get caught destroying somebody elses property, you'll find yourself talking to a lawyer anyway.
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(1) Talk to the owner of the tree and see if you can settle the issue amicably. Explain your problem and propose solutions and you might get agreement or even assistance. Even if you are not on good terms with your neighbor, you should let him/her know what you are planning. Rude surprises generate rude surprises pointed the other way.
(2) If that doesn't work, check with a lawyer as to what you can do. I suspect (disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer, and I don't even know what state you're in, or for that matter, whether you're even in the same country I am) that you would be within your rights to excavate around your pipes and slab to cut roots that are invasive, as long as your excavation is on your property and as long as you don't damage the tree to the extent that it becomes a hazard. Trees can withstand a fair amount of root pruning, although if all the roots are removed on one side of the tree, it could be subject to falling over in a strong wind, creating a hazard to property nearby.
(3) If you don't know basics about trees, consult a professional arborist. Your initial suggestion is not likely to be kept hidden, since the dead tree will be taken down and cut up.
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If you water the foundation, the subsoil will not dry out and you will not have a problem. If you trench near your house and install a root barrier, you will not have a problem. If you replace the porous drain pipe with correctly installed PVC, you will not have a problem.
If your trespass onto your neighbor's property and kill his tree, you will have a problem (or so I would hope).
Grow up and take responsibility for these issues instead of sneaking around breaking laws to avoid dealing with the real issues.
K
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A friend of mine told me that his father strung copper wires through weeping bed tile to stop willow roots from entering and claimed that it worked. As far as drilling a tree with copper sulfate; only the first layer under the bark is living tissue. So drilling into the tree would serve no purpose.
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Peter Jason wrote:

This is real damage, and the tree's owner is responsible. Take him to court. Established tort law tells you that you can sue for damages to your property caused by that tree. You can probably start with small claims court, depending on the dollar limits in your state or province.

Common law says you can cut off any part of the tree that overhangs your property. I don't know if that includes roots. You don't need permission, but it might be politic to tell the neighbour what you intend. Just make sure you don't encraoch on the neighbour's property. IOW, if you kill the tree, you've damaged his property, and he can sue you, and you can be charged with mischief or worse.
In most cities and towns, there will be ordinances that you can use to make the tree-owner do what needs to be done, or get the city to cut down the tree. If the tree belongs to the city, you may have to sue. But the city should have rules and procedures about maintaining the "urban forest", so there should be no problem, apart from the usual bureacratic delays.
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Peter Jason wrote:

I thought so.
Regards, Bob
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How about dilling a hole in your head and filling it with something toxic? At lest the tree gives off O2 and not troll waste like yours.
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Hey Peter. I am prolly one of the least PC folks you will meet here so I am going to offer some advice. It's just a tree and another can be replanted in it's place. We yank out shrubs, flowers and all sorts of other plants when they become a problem, a tree can be replaced too.
First, a little history. The last house we owned had an enormous Ash tree in the front yard, the whole neighborhood had HUGE ash trees. This tree, big and beautiful as it was, was lifted and my driveway several inches and ruined it. It had roots running into my yard so that the grass would not grow and it had cracked the brick borders around my flower beds as it headed for my foundation. It also had (as did they all) mistletoe and a disease that caused it to drop loads of messy leaves every time there was the slightest rain. It was like autumn all year round.
My point is, I feel your pain. I considered killing this tree too. It was "owned" by the city.
Since it was on the south side of the house I decided that there must be another solution because it was the only buffer between our house and that hot summer sun. I called the city and they had a program where they would come and cut the roots with a trenching kind of tool. It cut about two inches wide, and severed the roots to stop them from doing any more damage. It was a mess in the lawn, but nothing that didn't heal up fairly quickly. I had it done a couple of times while we owned the house and it did help.
In your case, I don't know if it is a solution or not but it's hard as hell to kill a tree. We cut one down completely and it took about two years for it to stop sending up suckers. It was Oak and too ahrd to drill and put stuff into to kill it. You may try consulting an arborist about the roots on your property and if it's a neighbor's tree see if they will share the cost of the maintenance. If it's the city, do some stealthy research on it, if they will do nothing then I'm on your side, find a way to kill it. Just don't get caught.
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:I have been told that to kill a tree I have to drill a hole 6" deep and : 1"diameter into the trunk near the base and fill it with copper sulfate and : then seal the hole with a wooden plug. : : Can any one advise me if this is true? : : Peter : :
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-> Hey Peter. -> I am prolly one of the least PC folks you will meet here so I am going to -> offer some advice. -> It's just a tree and another can be replanted in it's place. We yank out -> shrubs, flowers and all sorts of other plants when they become a problem, a -> tree can be replaced too. -> -> First, a little history. -> The last house we owned had an enormous Ash tree in the front yard, the -> whole neighborhood had HUGE ash trees. -> This tree, big and beautiful as it was, was lifted and my driveway several -> inches and ruined it. It had roots running into my yard so that the grass -> would not grow and it had cracked the brick borders around my flower beds as -> it headed for my foundation. It also had (as did they all) mistletoe and a -> disease that caused it to drop loads of messy leaves every time there was -> the slightest rain. It was like autumn all year round. -> -> My point is, I feel your pain. I considered killing this tree too. It was -> "owned" by the city. -> -> Since it was on the south side of the house I decided that there must be -> another solution because it was the only buffer between our house and that -> hot summer sun. -> I called the city and they had a program where they would come and cut the -> roots with a trenching kind of tool. It cut about two inches wide, and -> severed the roots to stop them from doing any more damage. It was a mess in -> the lawn, but nothing that didn't heal up fairly quickly. -> I had it done a couple of times while we owned the house and it did help. -> -> In your case, I don't know if it is a solution or not but it's hard as hell -> to kill a tree. We cut one down completely and it took about two years for -> it to stop sending up suckers. It was Oak and too ahrd to drill and put -> stuff into to kill it. You may try consulting an arborist about the roots on -> your property and if it's a neighbor's tree see if they will share the cost -> of the maintenance. If it's the city, do some stealthy research on it, if -> they will do nothing then I'm on your side, find a way to kill it. Just -> don't get caught. -> -> Kate
Many years ago someone tried to kill the "historic treaty oak" in Austin, TX. He was nearly successful. Maybe you could do some research and find out what he used!!
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-> I have been told that to kill a tree I have to drill a hole 6" deep and -> 1"diameter into the trunk near the base and fill it with copper sulfate and -> then seal the hole with a wooden plug. -> -> Can any one advise me if this is true? -> -> Peter
You could pray for a lightning strike. Or go to misc.legal.moderated, give full details (including your location), and see if you have any legal way of dealing with the damage.
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Thanks. But I am surprised by many of the other posts which are less than sympathetic to my weighty problem about this errant tree.
We all know the old saying that "a good neighbour is a dead neighbour" (which explains the high value of land adjacent to cemeteries) and so ANY solution short of confronting the next-door people is the one to take.
I am SO tired of this tree; its leaves blow under the kitchen door, it makes my small back yard gloomy, and in the early morning at about 4am birds sit in it and wake me up with their incessant chirping and twittering - and they crap all over my pavers. In autumn all its slimy leaves litter and clog everything!
I'm going to address the very person of this tree and poison it with every means at my disposal, copper sulfate, thorium nitrate, thallium phosphate, sulfuric acid, chromium nitrate, and in the dead of night - before the birds arrive I'll drench it with roundup!
This tree will end up glowing in the dark!
I think there are lawyers lurking in this ng.

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Peter Jason wrote:

And after all that, you will move out and leave the next tenant wondering why there are no nice trees around to shade his house, protect it from winter winds, and generally give a interesting landscape to an otherwise drab backyard. You could move to a high rise building where there are no trees around to harbor bird life. I will take birds any day to barking dogs.
Sherwin D.

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