Just got their catalog. Black Bamboo, one gallon pot, $125.00.
One oakleaf hydrangea with the chartreuse foliage, $45.00.
I truly don't know how they make any money there. Does anyone actually think
these are as rare as they try to make you believe?
Pam, how much did that dwarf hydrangea sell for at a garden center?
Yes they are and they have gall too!
I have often wondered why in the heck they call themselves Wayside in the
Makes me think of that famous WC story that made Jack Parr quit the Tonight
It only proves that P.T. Barnum was right when he said "There's a sucker
born every minute"!!!
And I'm not talking about the suckers you propagate big Bamboo from
Because about 30 or more years ago, they were WAY out
in the country near Mentor Ohio, by the SIDE of the road.
They were a very good nursery, that then went out of business,
and Park's bought the Name. They had a good reputation back
I think that Springhill was bought by a group of employees after the parent
company went bankrupt a few years ago. I live about an hour from
Springhill's facility in Tipp City, Ohio. After the bankruptcy and
reopening, it seems like it is a better company. The plants they sell in
their store are as nice as I see anywhere. They have an incredible catalog
clearance sale each June where you can get some incredible bargains -- same
with Bluestone Perennials.
yeah... they sent a gloss catalog that I dumped in the garbage right away.
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On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 04:33:51 GMT, firstname.lastname@example.org opined:
I bought one thing from them because I had a 20 dollar coupon. Other than that,
I have no idea how they make money. Between those expensive catalogs and prices
of plants, which I have no idea why buys...?
Oh, I'm glad that there are still nurseries out there and it's not all become
houses. I think I recall that the Wayside property did become a housing
subdivision(?) Bluestone was just getting started and was mail order only,
so I never got to buy any of their plants back then; I buy many of them
now that I'm in Calif.! LOL
There was a wonderful perennial nursery out on Plains Road in Mentor,
called Lohrey Floral Gardens. It was run by an elderly husband and wife
team. They had so many varieties planted in their large fields and would
go out and dig up the plants you wanted and wrap them up. You took
them home and planted them; everything grew so well.
Very reasonable prices too.
I mean, I know black bamboo is expensive. I can buy a 20 gallon pot for about 60
dollars, but that's a twenty gallon mature plant!
Oh well. I'm having trouble knowing I'm old enough to get the Jack Parr joke!
IMHO Yes they are, and they want $9.00 for a run of the mill perennials.
The one good thing about it is in my area two farmers have started
growing perennials with a starting price of $1.50 - $2.50 . Yes they are
4 inch pot but it is amazing how fast they grow. It is also amazing how
fast the farmers business grew too . To me who likes to grow in drifts
of 7 to 15 plants this has been a god
This is a result of my discount buying ---digger
I have planted many display gardens at different times when I worked in the
garden center trade. At the end of any given growing season, there was
absolutely no difference between a 4" pot or a gallon pot. Actually, in many
cases the 4" pot did better.
I always opt to buy the 4", not only because it's cheaper by a long shot, but
it's usually a healthier plant and hasn't made its way up through several
transplants by nursery owners.
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:09:53 -0500 (EST), email@example.com (digger doug)
$30 before my discount. Not exactly a bargain, but much less than Wayside.
And they are trying to get folks to think it is their "exclusive" when it is
obviously not. Black bamboo IS expensive but not that expensive - for the
equivalent price here you will get a mature and full 5 gallon container.
pam - gardengal
Well, 30 is certainly a much more feasible price for something which is
relatively rare. However, I think I may buy a bucket of black bamboo, grow it,
divide it and start selling IT. Holy cow.
Thing with it here is that rarely, if ever, are there any clumpers which clump.
Most of the bamboo's run. Black is somewhat more behaved, but if unchecked for
a few years, you'd be inundated. I may have to grow it now. Geesh. I'd make it
much more affordable to the garden center so they don't have to charge so much.
Prices such as those you quoted from Wayside can only be charged if enough
suckers pay the asking price. Many consumers of garden products demand
instant gratification and are willing to pay any price if they want a plant
badly enough. I often shake my head as I watch people walk out of garden
centers in the spring with hanging basket plants at the peak of their growth
and color, knowing that within a couple weeks these same plants will turn
into ratty skeletons. These same people throw them in the trash pile and
return to buy another.
The same is also true of people who build house and demand instant
landscapes. Often these same landscape turn into jungles within a four or
five years because inappropriate plants were purchased, and the landscape
designer is called back to remove and replace the jungle. It's usually not
the landscape designer's fault, but the consumer who has little or not
knowledge about plants. I'm sure any reputable designer has to walk a fine
line between coping with stupidity and making a sale.
I'll admit that I am not an ideal plant consumer. If I can grow it from a
cutting or plant division or start it from a seed, I'll do so. When I do
purchase a "must have" plant at what I consider ridiculous price, my mind
immediately goes to work about reproducing this plant so that individual
cost is greatly reduced. Many of my friends are the recipients of these
Well, I have become the favorite person at our bi-annual plant swap at the
garden club. Fortunately, many people in Texas are heartfelt about keeping
Texas wild and use native plants more than not. It's a great place to live, in
that regard. That it was 75 degrees yesterday was at the top of reasons!
I got their catalog and thought their prices were kind of wacky. Some stuff
seemed competetive with garden centers some stuff a lot more expensive. I
have never ordered from them before but I was thinking about getting a
clematis from them that seemed reasonably priced. Garden centers here seem
to offer about 5 kinds each season and never the ones I am interested in.
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