I'm looking for some garden lighting, I like the look of those small rock
lights, as they can be hidden amongst the flowers, however they are only
12v, and can only be placed 3-4m from the transformer, and you can't daisy
chain them together.
I think I need something higher voltage, maybe just standard 240v with no
transformer. A set of 5 or 6 smallish ground lights, that can be daisy
chained around the garden (20m). It would also be good if it was possible to
install multi coloured bulbs as well, (as the rock lights only support 10w
halogen, and coloured halogen are 30w).
Anyone know of anything simular to this?
Low voltage lighting can certainly be strung out further than that. At our
previous home I had 8 lights (2 strings) daisy chained and extending at
least 20 meters. A standard (at least here in Toronto) Noma product. No
problem. The transformer was stock too -- straight out of the box.
If the look of the lighter-weight low voltage stuff suits you, it is
certainly the way to go. Completely DYI and very little hassle. Its
sometimes a little fiddley to ensure good contact at the lights and
connections but aside from that it's dead easy. Relatively inexpensive too.
On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 17:00:27 +0100, "Ben Blackmore"
I agree with Jim. if you get the right transformer, you can have a
nice array of lights in series over a much greater distance than you
have suggested. You might have to look beyond the home despot for
pro-quality stuff (or maybe not--I haven't messed with the stuff they
have, since it always seems to be broken when I see it at others'
houses), but you can do it. I've had good success with Vista brand
products (I have no connection with them other than being a customer).
I think using AC to run garden lights is a waste of juice, an eyesore,
a maintenance nightmare, and a safety risk. 12V is safe, easy,
unobtrusive, and efficient. I also prefer the spotlight/ambient light
effect more than the floods you usually see in AC systems, but that's
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Look, I'm really sorry to rain on anyone's parade but perhaps you might ask
yourselves if you really *want* garden lighting? Why? What will you do with
it? Will you actually sit at the window and turn off the telly and look out
at our night-illuminated garden?
This country has (IIRC) the highest light pollution in the world
proportionately speaking. I can understand garden lighting when you're
using a deck or terrace for a party but to light plants at night? WHY?
Can't you look at them in the day time?
If you live in the boondocks and need to light the path to the house - maybe
install something that comes on as you approach it and goes off rapidly as
you enter the house.
So - FWIW, you may want to consider less light pollution and more sitting
outside in the soft darkness of a summer's night looking at the *stars*
which will not have been blanked out by a something-or-other lighting your
Skimmia or bamboo and all those of all your neighbours. Just a teensy
A newcomer to this village tried to get street lighting installed once - not
a shrewd move. I think he moved quite soon after that. ;-)
On many winter and summer nights we go outside to look at the stars and even
with the very faint loom of Torquay some miles away we can actually *see*
them. It's another world, a magic, a revelation. And all our plants are
still there next morning, in the *day*light.
Oh how I agree, the usual argument for excessive lighting is it reduces
crime rate. How is that so, when I was young just after WW2 in Somerset
my parents home looked out from the Mendips over the Somerset levels,
the only light was looking up. Now it is all that awful yellow, and
crime, reduced? I think not!
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Apparently you aren't familiar with the tradition of barbecue (bar-BQ).
It is where you cook outdoors on a grill (charcoal or propane) and eat
outdoors. If the host has a nice garden, the bar-BQ may be held in or
next to the garden. If the function lasts after sundown, outdoor
lighting is needed. Frequently it includes tiki torches with citronella
laced fuel to keep the insects down.
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Stephen M. Henning8/4/04 8:41
Ah. Now this may be because me and mine have a mutual view on barbecues -
poor food, badly cooked, for the most part. We prefer to cook the food
indoors, carry it into the garden and sit there as the daylight fades,
watching the stars 'come out' and the bats flying around, listening to the
Little Owls calling etc. You don't get a lot of that with artificial
garden lighting..... OTOH, each to their own which is why my original post
did say something about entertaining on a deck or terrace and understanding
that lighting might be needed for that. I am querying whether individual
trees and shrubs, bits of the garden, etc. need to be lit up at night, every
night, for, what - exactly .........?
How many people that do this turn off the lights inside their houses and sit
at a window, gazing out into their spasmodically illuminated garden?
Try letting gardens be lit by moonlight is my suggestion and if there's no
moon, wait for the next one. Just another pov.
Poor old mother earth.
The unnatural light in the garden scares off all those nocturnal
creatures that don't like light . . .
. . . you kill the insects so the animals that feed off the insects all
die; then all the animals that feed off the animals that eat the insects
all die . . .
. . . and you would rather look at artificial light than the stars . . .
poor old mother earth :((((((((((((
BTW in the uk when the temperature reaches a sufficient level to have a
bbq outside, it stays light until it is too cool to be outside any
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You folks in the UK should understand that you live quite a bit further
north than most North Americans and during the summer it stays light longer.
In many places in August, for example, after you get home from work, have
dinner etc, you're running out of light.
Ah, that be my fault! I like to get as many views on a subject as possible!
Posting to just the UK group would have meant missing out on other contries
views, and they might have had a different product that I could order online
to what we have here in the UK.
We still use a fire, but we brush the ice and snow off the grill before
we start. Sometimes we take the food indoors to eat, unless we have a
neighbor that gets up tight about outdoor light. Then we brush the ice
and snow off the picnic table and eat there so we don't have the indoor
lights shining out the windows of the house upsetting our neighbor.
Sometimes we even take the Scouts camping in the middle of winter and
eat and sleep under the stars.
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