No greenhouse as of yet... though I've been pondering the idea. Next year
I'll start them 6 weeks early. Considering how large those plants were, I'm
surprised how well they're doing. I was planning for the worse, and started
a 2nd batch with 3 weeks left to planting. Those ones are doing ok, though
they haven't caught up to the first batch. I couldn't manage to give away
quite all the extras, and I couldn't bring myself to snuff them, so they're
a little crowded.
That I'll do also. The larger seedlings had a tough time standing up on
Thanks, I'll check those out.
I'd never seen one of those before, but looked it up. Nasty looking critter.
So far I've been lucky. The only insect problem I've noticed so far with my
tomatoes is ants, which I had last year. So far this year, I haven't seen
Last year I had a rabbit get in and destroy my 4 Roma seedlings, which I
started. At least it was just the Romas, and not something like my 1884s,
which I couldn't buy a replacement for. The rabbits can't get in the garden
anymore. In retaliation, it seems they've decided to trash my wife's flowers
in the front of the house.
I really like Stupice. I usually order the seeds from Cooks Garden.
We've had good luck with it here near foggy SF so short season tomatoes
work best for us.
I agree with the person who suggested Black Krim. It is very tasty.
Usually for yellows I grow yellow pear or cherry tomatoes. I haven't
grown too many slicers.
We also really like Pineapple - it's a yellow/red mottled tomato and is
one of my favorites to eat.
Green Zebra is also a big favorite with us.
You might enjoy browsing the variety of tomato seeds at
www.tomatofest.com Just scroll down towards the bottom of the home page
for the link to "tomato seeds". He gives a pretty good description of
the tomatoes and sells seeds for 450 varieties. You can also browse by
tomato color, so maybe you'll get some good leads on yellow or
black/purple that way.
three that i plant every year:
amish paste- heirloom, large paste, extra tasty
sweet cherry 100-burpee.. just like the name says
chuck's roma-heirloom large, meaty paste...for sauce
hth good luck, jim book
The blacks are among my favorites. The first black was Black Russian and
was incredible. Since that year, I've tried many others including Black
Krim which always has one plant in my garden. There'd be more if there
were more room.<g> If you have not tried Sun Gold, be sure to try it, a
wonderful orange very sweet tomato. Because it grows so large and is so
prolific, it's a natural if there are small children around. They can
pick them like berries, just the right size for little hands . . . and
Well, actually, they will taste the same, still like plastic. <g>
Oh, Gary, please don't call that binging. I even take a couple of smaller
cucumbers to work with me and eat them on the way home. Leaving them in
the trunk keeps them cool (have been too lazy to put a small cooler in
there for them). With a cup of frozen yogurt (thawed by noon but cool)
for lunch and cucumbers on the way home, appetite for more filling
(meaning filling out) things is considerably reduced. (And, of course,
lots of ice water!)
Eating lots of tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers, and onions is *not* binging .
. . . please tell me it's not! (Actually, it sounds a bit like salsa.<g>)
Hehe. Maybe I could have termed it differently. When the veggies are ripe, I
take them to work pretty much every day to have with my lunch.
A couple of my 1884's are starting to turn. The flavor of those is
absolutely incredible. Can't wait.
I like to see the looks I get when I slice up a 1 pound-plus tomato durning
lunch at work!
Last year, I put a cattle panel up beside several of my tomato plants
which worked very well. I supported it in two places with metal fence
posts. This year, I had made a sort of hoop house of one and was not at
all happy with it so removed the plastic. I left it in place and planted
my Sun Golds and other cherry-type tomato plants at each corner. It is
working wonderfully. If it were a normal year, I'd have a completely
covered tomato arbor at this point.
FYI, a cattle panel is 16 feet long, four feet high, with 8-inch mesh.
Because it is designed to keep large farm animals where they belonged, it
is heavy duty. Unlike rebar, it does not rust as it is a fence. In our
area, the panels sell for just under $20. They will last indefinitely.
If I had the intestinal fortitude and strong hands and heavy duty
lineman's cutters, I'd made some great cages of the panels. Even cut to
place as four-feet long pieces shaped to a right angle would work well and
stack very well in the off season. Supports could be eight feet tall
getting two from each panel if one wanted them that tall (or three 6-ft
cages). Of course, the tomatoes would need additional training with only
two sides. Metal electrical conduit cut to the appropriate height would
work well as a stabilizer (stake).
This year, where I had the tomato plants on the cattle panel last year, I
have cucumbers with the pepper plants between the cucumbers and the
walkway. Many of you have also had a bumper year of cucumbers so can
imagine how well this has worked for those.
I had planned to have one on one side of the garden for raspberry vines
but didn't get it done this year, but it should work well for those as
This year has definitely not been my best tomato year though I must admit
I've had no bad tomato years, just late ripening this year as everyone
else seems to have had.
Those Sun Golds are definitely keepers . . . and plant-againers. :-)
On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 22:59:57 -0700, firstname.lastname@example.org (Glenna Rose) wrote:
I picked up some cages like that at an auction. Somebody else had made them from
the cattle panels. They're about 5 feet tall and about 4 feet on a side. Nice
Have you tried making a trellis from the cattle panels? Just put two fence posts
in the ground about 8 feet apart, then put the panel over them, making a hoop of
it with the ends held down by the bottoms of the fence posts. It makes a nice
trellis for cucumbers, peas, and anything else you want to let climb on it.
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