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Thanks for the generous offer Om. Are you in Australia? If not then I must sadly decline due to quarantine concerns. However, I'm sure that the problem isn't breeding, we have lots odfine leaved shrubs and bushes and each year we have babies. It's just that the sodding Currawongs are such efficient and effective killers.
We went away for 3 days and when we came back we both noticed how much the small bird population had dropped. We keep an eye on the Currawongs when we are here and "discourage" them for being aroudn.
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Farm1 wrote:

Look at some of the gourds offered by Eden Seeds. http://www.edenseeds.com.au alphabetical, then G for gourds. (search for gourds didn't work)
you might need to hand pollinate as well (like pumpkins). We grew one of their Large gourds (bottle) last years, but it wasn't pollinated and remained small and eventually rotted away.had
However, I'm sure

Hmm, if you have stuff like cotoneaster, pycantha, etc locally, do all you can to get rid of them. It is believed these are part of the reason, currowangs overwinter on these and thus survive in greater numbers for spring.
You also might like to observer if the small leaved stuff is actually protecting the small birds or if the currawongs "enter" the shrtubs in pursuit. chicken wire cage it or spiny pshrubs (bursaria)
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Thanks for that. Found'em.

Will keep that in mind.

The sodding things live in the huge pinewind breaks around the machinery shed and shearing shed and the perimeters of the paddocks out from our house. They have lots of road kill to keep them going all year round. We must have at least 100 round here - probably more. At least they aren't the only birds we have. We saw a stunning little kingfisher today. It wasn't an Azure kingfisher and I haven't been able to find it in the 2 bird books I've looked at so far but it was gorgeous - rarer than some of the other birds we have though.

They do protect them, thankfully. Too shrubby and twiggy and lots of it but the currawongs sit on the big trees and watch like proverbial hawks. The currawongs have now become very cautious. Walking out of the house with a gun makes then take off quick smart but we can't be here to protect the little birds all the time and they need to come out to feed at times when we aren't around.
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Don't think I've never sent seeds to Australia. ;-) One just has to have the "knack" if you know what I mean.
Seriously, contact me off line. The beauty of birdhouse gourds is that you can control the hole size and keep the killers out and protect the young. House wrens are pretty tiny.
Of course, you can use just about any gourd, or build some small bird houses. It's just that the gourds are convenient and easy, and fast. One of my most valuable items is time it seems! Hence the "pop up" greenhouses I have. Spent maybe 1 hour max erecting each one and putting in the shelving.

Are you allowed to own an air rifle? Around here, those are not classified as a firearm.
Squirrel is delicious. Can't help but wonder the same about Currawongs?
;-)
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I know it has been done but as I live on a farm and we derive part of our income from the land, I'm very conscious of the quarantine laws. I'd never do anything to contravene them. In fact I will vote against any government who tries to endanger our environment by chanhing our import laws as a result of sodding globalisation. Thanks again Om but since Teryc gave a site for them in Aus, I know I'll be able to get them locally. It's a good firm and I've used them before.

How do you make the nest?
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Now that too sounds interesting. What is it and how do you make them.

I've got a gun licence and guns so that isn't a problem. I suspect that shooting Currawongs isn't allowed and a lead slug just makes then squark but............

Some of the real old timers round here have eaten just about anything (like crows) but I've not heard of them eating currawongs. They'd probably be most like a crow in taste and size. I think I'll stick to real meat :-))
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The bird builds it's own nest inside. Just carve the hole small enough so the Currawong cannot get inside and the bird still can. Make sure the nesting space is at lest 6 cm. deep and drill 3 drain holes in the bottom for when it rains. They will build on top of the drains but it does not plug them.
I don't have any pics on hand right now, sorry. I cut a hole for the birds, drain holes in the bottom and stick a screwed in eye bolt in the top for hanging, and hang them up between 5 and 6 ft. up. Mine seem to go for the lower ones.

I got them from here:
http://tinyurl.com/kfmd9
Do a google search using "dreamhouse greenhouse" and see if you can find one locally.

Follow the 3S rule...... ;-)

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Thanks for the instructions Om.

Looks great. Unfortunately not available locally. :-((

Yes :-)) I was telling a friend that rule today in relation to a cat problem she has.
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Glad I could help!

I wonder tho' if the promised free shipping on most sites that sell these includes your location? :-)

Indeed... Works for most any "pest" iykwim??? <G>
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It's a good question, but I can't think of any legal methods for getting rid of currawongs. Being native, they would be a protected species, too. I expect the best you can do is to eliminate (or net) fruiting trees and berry bushes, to feed your cats/dogs indoors so there is no leftover food for the currawongs, the same goes if you put out food for birds, and to put netting over all water sources so only the small birds can get in to drink. Water sources include dripping garden taps, hoses, and even roof gutters that are so warped they store water after showers or heavy dew. Lawn sprinklers provide birds with drinking water, but as most of Oz is in drought, I suppose you are not using lawn sprinklers, but if you are maybe you could limit their use to nighttime?
Then when you've attended to all those measures on your property, do the same at your neighbours' places for a mile around!
Currawongs typically nest high up in leafy trees, so your getting to their nest is out of the question, usually. -- John Savage (my news address is not valid for email)
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OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:

The best thing I've ever found for cabbage worms is Bt, Bacillium thurengenis (sp?). Mix with water per directions on the bottle and spray the cabbage plants on a regular basis. Moth comes by, lays eggs, eggs hatch and the first thing they eat is Bt,then they die.
For snails and slugs we use stale beer, just a little in an old shallow bowl or lid. They get in it and don't get out.
George
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I really do need to try it....

I've successfully used beer pans for both slugs and snails for years. I've found that a dark Ale attracts even more.
I've just quit posting about it because I got too many flames. <sigh>
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But it works so why would you get flamed?
The other things that works are derris dust and corflakes mixed to a mush and if you were in the UK then you'd probably know to use Marmite and water or in Aus you'd use Vegemite and water.
The thing that both Marmite and Vegmite have in common with beer, is that they are yeast based and snails and slugs die when they slobber on yeast. But doesn't everyone know that? :-))
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Some people don't believe it. ;-)

Huh! I can get Marmite at the Greek market in Austin. Might be cheaper than beer so I should try that.
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