On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:34:16 GMT, "FREDERICK INDICTOR"
As best I can tell, we've had good luck with fencing. We found out
the hard way that you need a horizontal strip of fence along the
ground, to keep them from digging under.
We've tried traps (Havahart, large). We always catch them,
eventually; but, sometimes it takes a while, and they can do a lot of
damage in one night. One time - before we put the horizontal strip of
fencing in - we had the trap right at the hole they'd dug under the
fence. Nothing: they walked right by it.
If it was legal (& safe) to shoot here, I think I'd get a pellet gun.
First George, I don't think that you'd have much luck against a chuck
with a pellet gun. Those guys are tougher than they look.
Also don't you mean a horizontal fence *under* ground level? I've never
seen a fence at ground level that they can't/won't dig under if they
want to. Come to think if it, I don't think I've seen any that had been
sunk down that they couldn't get under.
No, we just laid it on the ground - about a foot wide, coming out from
where the vertical fence touched the ground. AFAICT, it worked for
us: they'd dug a hole under the fence, which they'd clean out when we
tried to block it. That stopped after we put the strip of fence along
But, maybe, as time goes on, we'll find that was just wishful
thinking. They do seem to change feeding patterns; maybe, they just
found something more appealing. Or, maybe we won't have woodchucks
this year. Every day is a new adventure.
A couple of things:
- We bent the wires on the cut edge of the horizontal fence, so they
could lock into the vertical fence - that kept anyone from forcing
their way between.
- Be careful if you mow over the horizontal part. That can get ugly.
Not that I would have done anything like that.
Believe it or not you have to be careful with that... in some areas
(including mine) it's perfectly legal to live trap an animal BUT it's
illegal to take and let it go into the woods. You're supposed to call an
animal relocation service and pay to have it done... yeah, right.
How freekin' stoopid is that.
In my area, animal control companies are not allowed to remove a live
animal from the premises if they trap it. They have to kill it or
release it on the property.
That is why we take the trap to a unfrequented hiking area & let the
I had a neighbor, a policeman, who offered to "get rid of the problem"
for me. How I regret not letting him do it, though, frankly, I think
it is shoveling against the tide.
I had been groundhog free for 3-4 years & my neighbors completely
renovated their yard. Heavy equipment,. waterfall, re-grading...the
whole thing. Once that began, I started getting them again. Last year,
they waited until the Brussels sprouts were just waiting for a frost.
Every leaf, every sprout was eaten. Only the stalks remained.
I keep a large sheet of plywood wedged into the stairs of my upper
deck, where I grow quite a bit in containers. The bast...
um...critters cannot get up there, then, so I can protect that.
They are not hard to trap, and if you can get rid of the whole family
group, you really can be happy for a few years.
You live trap woodchucks/groundhogs great.NOW KILL THEM.
You relocate them all you are doing is bringing your problem animal to
someone else.Think about it ,you bring them down the road a ways release
them now you have no problem animal.Now a week later(or sooner)you end up
having more than one woodchuck/groundhog problem.Why? Your neighbor down the
road where you disposed of your problem animal has now relocated his problem
animals to your place. Its a viscious cycle.
When you live trap a problem animal KILL IT and Bury It do not give it to
There are some lethal smoke bombs on the market that are very effective on
controling problem animals when used properly.
DO NOT RELOCATE PROBLEM ANIMALS
And it holds true even if you live out in the sticks.Unless you happen to
own thousands of acres than sure relocate them somewhere else on your own
Wether you have access to vast tracts of wood you are still giving someone
else your problem animal.Along with that I have not heard of any state that
allows people to just relocate animals without permits.Must be a reason they
require the permits.
What part of your top-posting mind does not understand the words
"unfrequented hiking area?" They'd have a way to go to get to
bothering another homeowner & I am not taking them anywhere where they
do not already exist.
They are not "problem animals" when they are in a remote and partially
wooded location. They can play with their friends there & nibble what
Smoke bombs are completely inappropriate to use in a residential area
such as mine and are best suited for pasture or large, open acreage.
Electric fencing would be more effective as a deterrent, but that
surely will send into my neighbors' yards, too, as well as bother my
I suppose I'd better load the rifle for the deer, too, rather than set
up fencing, eh?
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