Home Gardening Becomes Even More Imperative

They would if we could (somehow) quit buying gasoline, but how many of us can do that?

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Omelet
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On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 09:17:39 -0500, Omelet

I know!

Reply to
jangchub

There are a LOT more of us now than ever before. AT one time, even in this newsgroup we were the minority. It is wonderful to see American's finally waking up to the administration full of theft and lies.

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jangchub

Two things though; (1) remember the Hindenberg (boom!) and, (2) the First Law of Thermodynamics states that energy cannot be created or destroyed (beware of little black boxes).

It seems that electric motors fueled by wind, water, Sun (and Earth bound fusion) and, perhaps conventional, central, power plants where CO2 can be scrubbed from the smoke stack are the answer.

Personally, I don't need to go from 0 mph to 60 mph in 4 sec. So there may be some adaptations we need to make but I think we can live with that.

- Bill(y) Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)

Reply to
Bill Rose

I've lived with 4 cylinder engines all my life.

0-60 in 4 seconds?

Why?

Reply to
Omelet

It's a testosterone thing. Just put it in the pile of boy things that you've never understood. For the most part, we don't understand them either.

y(Bill) Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)

Reply to
Bill Rose

I don't remember the Hindenberg boom, but I'm in agreement with the rest of your statements. We've known about this for fifty years. This gas "crisis" is such a bunch of bullshit. I read a very funny phrase in another forum about dubya. If people are sensitive to sexual ideas, turn away now; someone's tag line was:

I wish somebody would blow him so we could start the impeachment process.

I found that hysterically profound!

Now, why are the two most popular hybrids made by Japan? The Ford doesn't live up to the hype, or so I've read. If we really wanted vehicles which get 100 miles to a gallon of gas, we could do it. We don't need speed boats.

Maybe coming up with localization is another good way to conserve. Build communities which have all they need within walking or biking distance. Especially in places like Texas where land is spread far and wide...but that too is rapidly changing.

Eh, my knee hurts.

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jangchub

ok, if you put it that way... ;-D

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Omelet

It's not all testosterone - I've enjoyed my turns in the big engines/lots of cylinder cars that have graced friends and family. A gas to drive, but not everyday. It's sort of like roller coasters. Love them, but not a steady diet of them.

C
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Cheryl Isaak

Ok, I can go along with that. :-)

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Omelet

I know lots of performance freaks. They all have much better mileage cars for every day.

Cheryl

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Cheryl Isaak

I was stunned once (more often than that actually but this was more like surprised) to meet a Frenchman (in France) who loved his 25 mpg American car because it had hydraulic valve lifters and required very little maintenance. In 1990, it cost me $50 to fill my VW van in France. Last week, it cost me $45.

The thing with driving a sling-shot (and risking the organism) is that it seems to be an absolute requirement that they clock in at 110 decibels as well. I know about back pressure but these things seem engineered to say "Hey, look at me". As my BP creeps up, all I see is a target.

- Billy Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)

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Bill Rose

Whaaaat? You are still driving a VW bus?

Ohhhhh.....the sweet memories!

Peace Brother Charlie

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Charlie

What can I say? When I work, it is mein schlaftwagon. During lunch I take my nap. I work until I'm tired (2 P.M. or so) and then I take my lunch (siesta, 25 min.) and then I'm good for another 6 hr. Why do you think people have VW vans. Motel rooms on wheels for the first 20 yr. Crash pads for the next 20 yr.

- Billy Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)

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Bill Rose

Aaaah. A man with style. We just missed out buying one on the weekend. It was a beauty. We've been looking for one for months. 1976, in immaculate condition except that it needed a clutch adjustment. Sadly not to be.

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FarmI

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dr-solo

I can't move closer to work. It's not practical so I use close to 2 gallons per day during my commute.

But I make sure that I do most of my shopping on the way home from work as a slightly different route will pass me thru town on the way home, and shopping trips to Austin are severely limited.

I'm on vacation this week and won't be going anywhere. I have too much to do here anyway. ;-)

I also shop by phone somewhat before going out so I can make just one trip to one store.

I don't like to shop on line as credit card interest rates are too high so I limit their use to what I can pay off each month.

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Omelet

Thanks for the kind words. I've always heard that those air cooled vans had lots of problems. Not so? I've had lots of interests in my life but cars were never one of them, until it broke.

The Westphalia was always my favorite. A person was always ready for a picnic.

Take care,

Billy Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)

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Billy Rose

I began interested in cars at a young age -14. Looking back, I think was the car, not the guy that was my "first love". (a forest green 1969 Mustang convertible)

Those were fun. A girlfriend had one - crammed a lot of stuff or people or both in to a few times.

C
Reply to
Cheryl Isaak

Get a debit card. No interest. We got one just for shopping online and on ebay. (We don't believe in credit cards.)

Jan

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Jan Flora

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