I have over a dozen heads of Iceberg Lettuce with about half having formed a
head. Now that
temperatures seemed to have settled in the eighties and sometimes nineties
here in NYC should I
start harvesting? I read that sometimes the lettuce can get bitter?
This is a little late, but there's an argument for planting leaf
lettuce, since one can peel off the outside leaves for the table
repeatedly w/o having to pull up the plant.
Dunno if leaf lettuce would "bolt" as fast as iceberg, but it's for
sure much more nutritious; the darker the better.
On Fri, 04 Jul 2003 23:12:12 GMT, snipped-for-privacy@Underworld.com
It also tastes much better (IMHO), and grows much faster.
I've read that leaf lettuce does not bolt as fast as
iceberg, but most of mine has certainly bolted now. It's
been pretty hot the last two weeks.
I'll start seeds for more in a day or so, and grow it in
pots on the deck - I can drag them into shade on very hot
Life begins with a salad of early spinach, dandelion greens, chives and
young onions. Add a dollop of Caeser dressing and prepare to shame the
Then too, there's a lot to be said for what is sometimes called "Wilted
lettuce" salad ... black seeded simpson tossed in a bowl with some thinly
sliced onions, a splash of red wine vinegar, crumbled freshly cooked bacon,
an optional pinch of granulated sugar and the hot grease off the bacon.
The missus and I (she's from Brooklyn,NY by way of connection)have been
raiding the mesclun mix greens almost daily for a simple salad of just
greens and a dressing of some sort.
Michigan winters can be the pits ... but summers are the peaks!
Sounds good, except the "wilted" part avec hot grease.
I make a salad with many of the same ingredients, except that I pick a
lemon off the tree and squeeze it instead of the vinegar. For an
interesting contrast, toss with orange slices cut small.
Instead of the sliced onions, I sometimes go out back and pull some
green onions, but the sliced does give a more robust taste.
As to salad oil, I switched from olive to walnut years ago. More
I have never understood the optional sugar bit. What is the purpose?
of 4 legged meat, so the bacon grease is an affordable luxury. This salad
is a family recipe which, due to the dearth of black seeded simpson lettuce
in the commercial markets, is a privelege restricted to only those who have
the foresight to plant their own garden. :-)
Mesclun mix is a mixture of lettuces and European salad greens (cilantro,
for example) that grow well together and provide a 'ready mixed' salad
right out of the garden. There must be eight or ten varieties in it but I
only recognize a few ... oak leaf lettuce, some sort of bibb lettuce and
the afore-mentioned cilantro.
Zone 5b (Detroit, MI)
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On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 03:34:49 GMT, "Emmet Cummings"
I don't think there's any set formula for mesclun mix.
I bought seeds called 'mesclun mix' from Pinetree Garden
Seeds, but they're just several types of lettuce.
Other greens for possible inclusion would be mizuna,
raddicchio, chicory, curly endive, arugala, other Asian
greens especially when young. I'm growing a Japanese plant
called Vitaminna that would be a good thing for adding to a
mesclun mix, for example.
Edible flowers would be nice too.
I've never been certain if arugala and raddicchio are the
same thing or different. Anyone know?
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 09:08:58 -0700, Larry Blanchard
I've never grown orach but intend to try it next year.
This year, for an exotic spinach, I am growing Malabar
Spinach. It's been growing well since our cool spring
monsoon weather turned into hot summer weather.
But I find that I do not like it, I don't like the taste or
the texture. So I won't grow it again.
either of us likes. This year I tried Good King Henry (or Lincolnshire
spinach) and it may have some possibilities if I can get it to germinate.
I planted several seeds in each of several starter pots and only had one
plant come up. But since it's a perennial, I thought I'd bury some seeds
this fall and see if overwintering is what they want.
Also tried perpetual spinach, a fine leafed chard - don't like it.
On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 14:24:28 -0700, Larry Blanchard
I love chard - just regular Swiss chard. I prefer the green
kind (Fordhook Giant is the one I generally grow). I think
it's better than spinach. I also think beet greens are
better than spinach. So I'm not really stuck for a spinach
substitute. Chard has always grown VERY well for me, never
any problems with it.
But I'll definitely also try Good King Henry: who could
resist growing a plant with a name like that? :) Not me.
'loose head' varieties. They have many of the advantages of leaf lettuces
(including having more nutritional value), but have a texture more like iceberg.
'Sierra' and 'Nevada' are widely available. (May I recommend Pinetree Garden
Seeds as a mail-order source: http://www.superseeds.com -- look in the
French vegetables section.)
Cos or romaine lettuces have a little more substance and crunch than most leaf
lettuces and are also far more nutritious than iceberg.
Pat in Plymouth MI
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I threw down some mulch and give it a good soaking each morning. In NYC the
air is fairly moist from the humidity.
However, as I write this the temperature is in the mid-nineties, so I guess
I'll be pulling those heads up today.
I liked the website -- its got 52 varieties of lettuce; some looks like
weeds I've pulled up in the past.
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