David Hare-Scott wrote:
>> Billy wrote:
>>>
>>> In a few years, if you want a breath of fresh air, you'll be able to
>>> buy it at a store.
>>>
>>> We are hoping for a couple of hundredths of an inch more rain
>>> tonight. Wish us luck.
>>
>> Here we have a concept related to rainwater called 'harvestable
>> right' . It means that roughly 10% of the rain that falls on your
>> land is yours to do with as you wish, the rest must available for
>> the environment or be allowed to run down to the rivers for others
>> to use. In practice it limits the size of the dam you can build and
>> the kind of waterway you can build it on. If for example a
>> permanent river crosses your land you can't dam that.
>
> that first part seems somewhat odd, as it would
> likely help moderate and encourage ground water to
> have a higher percentage available to be held back.
> as it will eventually get into the creeks/rivers
> eventually.
>
> the second part i would agree with, because by
> damming those sorts of waterways you would likely
> be interfering with fish migrations or perhaps
> raising the temperature of the water.
>
>
>> On top of that if you are on "permanent" fresh water, a river or
>> lake, you can pump from it (while it runs) without charge for 'bona
>> fide domestic purposes'. This includes stock watering, human
>> consumption and gardens. There is no specified limit to this in
>> terms of volume although if you were taking huge amounts somebody
>> might come around and ask exactly what you are doing with it. If
>> you were irrigating on a commercial scale or selling it you would be
>> fined. If you want to irrigate on a commercial scale you have to buy
>> a water license.
>
> that makes sense, but those who get there first
> in a situation where supply is declining would
> be those who would get it. sounds like eventually
> there will be rationing when enough people want
> to draw on it.
>
>
>> Any attempt by government to take away any of these rights would
>> have dire consequences at the ballot box, as despite the fact that
>> Oz is very urban the cities have a romantic attachment to the 'bush'
>> and a well organised campaign by farmers would gather many votes. >>
>> For the small landholder and those running sheep or cattle this is a
>> good system. As for irrigators it seems they are never happy
>> regardless of government, policy, rainfall or anything else.
>
> for the longer term i think the ground water
> situation would benefit from a higher percentage
> of capture of rainfall. has anyone tried to
> increase that percentage?
>
>
Your idea doesn't work because:
- Irrigation water is held in dams that don't leak (or shouldn't) so that doesn't lead to groundwater recharge.
- The more that is held in dams the more that is lost to evaporation which is not useful to anybody including the downstream ecology.
- It is used for irrigation where most is lost to evapotranspiration not to groundwater, if your irrigation is soaking down below the root level you are doing it wrong and may be raising the water table and so contributing to salination. This has happened in too many irrigation systems around the world including the Murray-Darling.
- The figure was arrived at to allow sufficient flow in the rivers for environmental, agricultural and domestic purposes downstream, many rivers cease flowing none the less in dry times. If the figure was more it would be favouring those where the rain falls at the expense of those users downstream. And yes higher figures have been suggested by those who would benefit at the expense of others.
You must also take into account that the system must respond to el nino - la nina cycles as well as any seasonal pattern. This is not a reliable annual rainfall nor a reliable seasonal pattern such as annual snow-melt. It's a hard land.
David