Amazing !

[Beanman]

I find it hard to believe no one on this forum grows heritage beans apart from me, can that be.

[Gary Woods]

Why would you say that, other than an attempt to elicit responses?

Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

[Dan L.]

I am not Bob, Well in my opinion that is a good and fair question. However I will take a try at it and see what happens :)

====================================================================== Heritage Plants - Plants that are native to a specific location or region. (My Guess).

Heirloom Plants - is a cultivar that was commonly grown during earlier periods in human history, but which is not used in modern large-scale agriculture. (A Wikipedia Definition). ======================================================================

Am I growing heritage beans native to my location - probably not. Am I growing heirloom beans - yes.

I am not against any garden postings regardless of its point of origin. Everyone here also has the right to filter out what they do not want :)

Enjoy Life... Dan

[<balvenieman]

It worked, didn't it? LOL! I don't know what "heritage" beans even means, unless it's the same as "heirloom" beans. In that case, I do and have for many years but just don't want to correspond with good old Bob about it. In point of fact, I have the whole of gardenbanter.co.uk "nfiltered". Gardenbanter is a bottom-feeding U.K. site attempting to capitalize on UUNET newsgroups by co-opting them as "their own" and presenting them inside a Web-based advertising vehicle. Sort of like AOL and WebTV did and Google is doing and with just as little class.

[David Hare-Scott]

What do you mean by "heritage"? I grow open pollinated beans from a variety of sources, their provenance is not always clear and their names probably don't mean much in an international forum. I choose on the basis of:

- long and prolific bearing

- stringless

- tasty

- disease resistance.

Is that heritage?

My favourite at the moment is a green bush bean sold by a commercial seed company (wait for it....... ) Mrs Fothergill. There is a pic of someone's grandma on the pack, how sweet. A patch about 1m square has been giving more tasty, tender, stringless beans continuously for 5 months than four can eat. They have survived grasshoppers, snails, drought and humid drizzle. Seed companies are not all ruthless predators who only want to hook you on F1s.

David

[Beanman]

To our american readers yes i mean heirloom,here in uk we call them heritage, frankly i dont know why people familiar to veg growing dont know what im talking about,has been lot of talk recent years about saving these varieties. Can you all be newcomers to this hobby.

[Gary Woods]

Troll sign verified. Plonk.

Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

[Suzanne D.]

I grow them, but don't feel any need to talk about it, because I mainly use this NG to get help when I have a question or problem.

--S.

[David Hare-Scott]

I am not from America and nor am I new to the hobby. But this is an international forum and words mean different things in different places and for all I know you are the newbie who doesn't know what the word means. I was just trying for clarity before we start talking past each other.

So having shown you mine how about you show me yours? What are your citeria for "heritage" varieties?

David

[Billy]

Good goin' David. When he creeps up, I'll drop the bag over him ;O))

[Beanman]

you are registered users anyway. Frankly i find the attitude of you all very upsetting not that im surprised, this is the most unfriendly forum i have ever been on.

[Gary Woods]

You do understand, don't you, that gardenbanter is NOT the group; they're simply forwarding posts to the usenet group via their web site. Nobody has to register to read or post to a usenet group, you just tell your reader to get the headers and/or posts to it. The "hostility" comes from accusing everybody else on the group from not knowing anything, whereas we are occasionally visited by people from gardenbanter who know everything. I've been gardening for a very long time, and I never cease to be amazed at what I don't know. What is your email, really? Gary Woods AKA K2AHC- PGP key on request, or at home.earthlink.net/~garygarlic Zone 5/6 in upstate New York, 1420' elevation. NY WO G

[The Cook]

Just for your information, this is not the GardenBanter forum. They are forwarding your posts and our responses from a Usenet newsgroup named rec.gardens.edible. No one has to be registered to post here.

Time to kill file GardenBanter.

[rossr35253]

OK Beanieman! What David said. I have been following this group (rec.gardens.edible) for a number of years and occasionally post when I figure I have something of value to the group. From my perspective, it's you who seem to be contributing as much or more to the unfriendliness of the group, than just about anyone I've encountered here. BTW, unless you're over age 55, I've probably been growing heirloom/heritage varieties since before you were born, just never felt the inclination to brag about it.

Ross.

[Beanman]

I suggest you arogant bigheads get lost,people like you spoil these sites.ok so **** off

[David Hare-Scott]

This is usenet, the simplest way to deal with words you don't like is to ignore them. Unless your intention is create and perpetuate a ruckus using your perceived slights what would have been wrong with sticking to the question that you raised, that is beans? We are not all hostile but if you keep being so precious that may change.

So once more tell me about "heritage" beans.

David

[Charlie]

Hey, I was going to mention this very thing, regarding hobby vs. survival!

I feel we are witnessing/have witnessed the death of the Usenet, by limitation and elimination of access by many providers. Outfits like google and banter pander to the newbs, maroons, and illiterate (regarding usenet and such). Lowest common denominator and all that....stuff.

[Charlie]

You ever have that dream where you are walking about in public in your undies or butt-nekkid? Feelin' kinda em-bare-assed, and all that?

Guess what, maroon....this ain't a dream.

You need some of that edumcation when it come to this here interwebs stuff, dude!

Shoot, maybe you jest be funnin' us a bit, eh?

Charlie

[phorbin]

Gardening may be a hobby to you. For some of us, possibly all of us, it is survival.

This is rec.gardens.edible on USENET. It is not gardenbanter.co.uk.

Gardenbanter piggybacks on USENET and picks up newsgroup feeds from Giganews.

You are using gardenbanter to read USENET which makes you a newb UK reader of USENET rec.gardens.edible through gardenbanter...

Look up eternal september on wikipedia

If you want to use a newsreader and your ISP doesn't supply USENET, have a look at

[phorbin]

*This is not a site.*

You are using a site to access this and succumbing to the illusion that rec.gardens.edible is gardenbanter.

I access this newsgroup and about a hundred others for which I have little time through my ISP which aliases a link directly to Giganews a USENET server/provider.

free USENET feed can be had at