Twin & earth pre-harmonised

[mickael]

Screwfix and Toolstation only seem to be selling harmonised now. Any advice folks on best place to get pre-harmonised?

[Blueyonder]

From somebody with pre-menstrual tension ???.

[bob]

Use the new colours and stick an appropiate label on the consumer unit.

[Gel]

Believe some manufacturers looking to retain in range, as some NHS Building Suveyors advise new colours not permitted within their installations.

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[Blueyonder]

They're expensive !!!!!!

[ARWadsworth]

Why do you need pre-harmonised?

Adam

[gilbert]

To pretend the work was done before the regs changed...? Just a wild guess.

[fred]

If so, not a big problem as new colours were around a few months before the new regs came in.

[ARWadsworth]

The link says nothing about the NHS. They will of course have a problem when only the new colours are available from April 2006.

Did you mean NHBC?

Adam

PS Part P is not relevant to a hospital (NHS) as it is not a domestic installation

[Andrew Gabriel]

I suspect he did mean NHS. A number of large companies and institutions like hospitals have banned the use of the new colours in their premises. Manufacturers will continue manufacturing whatever colours people are prepared to buy.

[mickael]

Thanks Gel, I might give them a try.

[mickael]

That's probably not a bad wild guess, Gilbert.

That's an interesting point, Fred. The wisdom on this NG has always been to stock up on old stuff. I can't now remember the timescales so do others agree with Fred?

[Gel]

NHS Estates, not NHBC who have no influence in matter. However its size of NHS's estate and requirement for old colours that should keep available for a bit longer yet, until some EU android gets his nose involved!!

[Gel]

yes; the Harmonisation and PArt P Regs should have started at same time but PArt P was postponed

[James]

Nonetheless using the old colours is likely to cause less suspicion in the case of a casual inspection. Most of the cable I have seen is date stamped - regardless of colours used.

James

[Vass]

Homebase still have loads of old stock

[Keith Willcocks]

OK, who is going to put me out of my misery? This is the first I have heard of new colours (I don't get out much) and a Google search has shown me the colours but nothing to tell me which colour is which (i.e. L, N and E). Incidentally I noticed in the process of searching that RS Components (

) appear to have red/black for sale as well as the new colours.

[Jim Lawton]

tells it like it is / was / will be ...

-- Jim "a single species has come to dominate ... reproducing at bacterial levels, almost as an infectious plague envelops its host"

[ARWadsworth]

Except for us mortals.

What happens after April 2006. Assume an NICEIC firm works on a hospital do they use the old colours and make a note of it on the certificate that they issue?

Adam

[Gel]

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