None that I know of. However, I have heard many stories of cowboy
corgis making large amounts by scamming people with unnecessary and
vastly overpriced work - such as a £1,000 repair to a thermostat on a
pensioners boiler reported in a local paper recently, but I have no
evidence of such. Perhaps you do?
After getting 3 quotes for what seemed ( to me ) to be absolute rip-off
prices and being told that "if you don't use a corgi reg fitter you will
die.... its that simple mate " I then went ahead and fitted my own combi
boiler. I had never even plumbed a tap before in my life nor changed a tap
washer, none of those technical things, what I do have is common sense. The
best quote I had was £500 labour and was told it would take 2 days due to it
not being a the same make of boiler out as in. I did it myself in 6 hours
without any experience and having to go buy a couple tools and standard tea
breaks..... oh and it cost me £25.00. That was 18 months ago and I'm still
here to tell the tail. I have since remodelled the bathroom including
fitting and extractor fan (which I wired myself) I have rewired my
garage/workshop totally I have replaced all the windows in my house. I have
also been told that if I rewire my house "you will die....its that simple
mate" Guess what my next job is........
These so-called experts may have a license to print money but it won't be my
How did you check that the pipework was properly sized for your combi, and
check the working gas pressure at the boiler?
How did you verify the integrity of your gas pipework?
What sort of soldering flux did you use on it and how did you apply it?
And what did you do to each joint after you'd soldered it?
What did you do with the pipe where it passed through any solid walls?
How did you make non-soldered joints?
What cleanser did you use to flush the system with? And what inhibitor did
you put it in after it was properly flushed?
What system controls did you end up with? How many TRVs did you have to
add to radiators to bring it up to current Building Regs energy efficiency
Where do you live? Just so I can keep clear ...
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Oi - that was me 20 years ago
We all have to start somewhere
UK-diy exists for those who want to DIY and need a bit of guidance
Not for fuckwits who are too stupid to remove a sticker from their car's
rear window or (I haven't even looked at the thread) people who can't
even sort out what trousers to wear to DIY
ISTR a lot of us have come a long way over the years, lets not forget
where we started
... rant over
p.s. how scary
my 25 year endowment mortgage matures next year
where did the time go ?
You see here an aura of total arrogance born of ( I presume) certificate
ownership. You have never met me John and you have absolutely no idea of my
capabilities, what you base your derogitory comments on is the fact that YOU
and a few others have a certificate stating that you are skilled in a
particular proffession and you have bought a certificate to prove it.
I believe it is down to you and others with your attitude that has set a
divide between i.e. Gas Fitters and corgi reg Gas Fitters the latter is
always mentioned with a strange smile or a roll of the eyes along with
certified electricians and the like.
It really is simple John, if I need a certificate to state that a certain
appliance is fitted properly etc....I can pick up the phone and get
one....... for a tenner that is what your certification is worth to the
normal everyday home-owner like me........a tenner, this is also how it used
to work when I was a teenager and needed an MOT on my car, I knew it was
safe but didn't have a peice of paper to prove it.
I'm not saying that this certified stupidity isn't the law..... I know it
is,...... is it really needed ? only in the eyes of the eu and our penny
greedy government ( oh and the certificated ones) because they make money
from it not because they are bothered someone may be hurt.
You can have a lot of fum with this one John but by the time you read it I
will be on a plane for a short break in Georgia where you don't need such
certificates and people do just fine...have fun
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:54:40 +0000, John Stumbles wrote:
I too am irritated by the assertion that somehow the professionals spin
out a job which a relatively inexperienced person can do in a few hours.
The 6 hours is probably the absolute minimum to get a functional system.
There will be very many aspects of best practice left undone.
About the only thing that a diyer might not have to do is the paperwork.
Making good might be expected from a pro (bricking up old flue holes has
got to be part of 50% of all jobs).
Cleaning of the existing circuit, upgrading of the controls to comply
with Part L. That alone is a solid days work on most systems.
Ed Sirett - Property maintainer and registered gas fitter.
The FAQ for uk.diy is at http://www.diyfaq.org.uk
That - and making the new hole and making good - took me more than 6 hours.
And I had plenty spare matching bricks. But you'd be hard pushed to see
where the old terminal was now. Add in plumbing in the condensate drain
plus piping up the pressure release circuit took pretty well all of a long
I'd love to see a boiler change done it 6 hours by one person - unless it
was simply fitting an new identical one. I'll bet it's a mess.
*It was all so different before everything changed.
Dave Plowman firstname.lastname@example.org London SW
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