The REAL housing crisis: TOO MANY PEOPLE

Recently, there's been news about corrupt loans and bailouts, and it's important. But, from a sustainability standpoint, the true housing crisis is that more homes are BUILT all the time, far beyond replacement levels. This is happening daily at the expense of wilderness, farmland and general elbow room. Who decided this constant blight upon the land was natural or desirable? It's not just a matter of NIMBY, it's about respecting physical limits.

NIMBY is a term used to distract from what's really going on. Nobody should be forced to endure constant crowding, especially of the type occurring in the American West. Many realize that the shrinkage of prime land has driven up housing costs, but they still act like it can go on forever. Money is treated as a resource unto itself, and literally being cloned in certain professions. See:

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The Earth is a finite mass and its surface gets more jammed each day. A lot of people are making money by charging for land that was once owned by nobody. The concept of permanent land ownership is purely a human one. Most species use what they need and pass on, rarely leaving permanent scars.

Some will tell you that the "wasted" American desert should be filled with people; just because it might be feasible if enough water was diverted. The blight of Phoenix, Vegas and L.A. isn't enough for growth addicts seeking easy cash from land that was once free. A little smooth talking and they're loaded with false wealth, able to buy their own mansion in a transaction cycle that keeps on taking from nature. To hell with frontiers and unbroken vistas. A price tag must be placed on every piece of usable land that's not spoken for.

Getting to the main point: the big reason these homes get built by the thousands each day is POPULATION GROWTH. In the U.S. this amounts to about 3 million more people annually. Worldwide it exceeds 70 million per year (net gain). If any other species tried to multiply at that rate, we'd declare a lock-down. But Man doesn't have to play by the rules of nature; so say the "conservatives."

For comparison, deer are generally considered overpopulated (for hunting's sake) but they number only about 20 million in America vs.

300 million people, headed toward a possible 500 million by the end of the century. Each deer also has a much smaller "ecological footprint" compared to a person. You can barely tell that deer (or most other animals) exist in satellite views, while human habitation creates endless scars. Which species is truly overpopulated?

Instead of harping on money and treating land as infinite, people should question the economic growthism and lack of global birth control that makes all these structures necessary. It seems that's too much to ask of the average person, though. They'd rather keep it shallow, ignore the root cause and whine about mortgages over cocktails.

E.A.

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Housing starts are a leading indicator of mindless population growth.

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Enough Already
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Reply to
Garybinder

Nature has a way of limiting population growth of most any species. Mankind has, temporarily, gone beyond that bounds. One way or another, it will catch up with him. Either slowly in forms of famine and shrinking of resources; or a major calamity. Nature will fix the aftermath.

Economically, you can't stagnate or shrink the population size and expect economic growth. You can't make enough people care enough to contribute to such a manual fix to overpopulation (limiting birthrate to 2 per couple over many, many generations). It will have to happen on its own. Dave

Reply to
Dave

on 8/16/2007 11:30 PM Enough Already said the following:

Blame it on medicine. Whenever a pandemic disease shows up, they try to find a way to cure it.

Reply to
willshak

I've done my part. I'm childless and bought a 50-year-old house rather than a brand new one.

Cindy Hamilton

Reply to
Cindy Hamilton

I always tell people who think there's too many people to, "Be my guest, you go first!", but the hypocrites NEVER oblige.

Reply to
Matt Barrow

Hardly.

Humankind has been more propsperous and healthy than at anytime in history.

Yeah, right. Paul Erlich pronouned the same thing and wound up looking like an idiot.

Population demographics has very little to do with it. A small free-market nation will always outproduce a large (or small) fascistic one.

It already is in a sense. Mark Styen has note that, outside the Muslim segments, all populations are heading for rapid decrease. This is only a factor if the next generations are expected to bail out older generations and their profligit welfare/nanny states.

Reply to
Matt Barrow

Don't feed the psychopathic troll.

Reply to
Matt Barrow

Haven't the Chinese addressed this very issue by mandating a very limited (one?) birthrate. Oh, right; they're godless commies!

Reply to
Dave in Houston

What evidence do you have that mankind has "gone beyond that bounds?"

Matt

Reply to
Matt Whiting

Get the facts. Its a 2 surviving birth limit. And its NOT voluntary. Dave

Reply to
Dave

Capitalism is based on more. Of the more, more consumers is part of the equation to continue its growth. It is also the basis for Social Security. If there's not more, the consumer contribution must increase both for consumer goods and Social Security. Its the same thing.

To reduce such a needed contribution in a stagnant or reducing population, total purchase of consumer goods in dollars must decrease as well as Social Security benefits.

Economics 101. Dave

Reply to
Dave

If you don't see it now, you never will. Dave

Reply to
Dave

That's why I rely on you, Dave.

Reply to
Dave in Houston

Ummm...no.

It is based on expanding production; the number of participants is damn near irrelevant. (Think: rising boat, not # of boats).

??? you talking about?

Econ 101 according to whom (or rather, what school?)

Reply to
Matt Barrow

Your knowledge of history is about on par with your knowledge of Econ. IOW, completely FOS.

Ah...these public schools!!!

Reply to
Matt Barrow

I believe I used a derivative of the word "mandate," Dave. As in NOT voluntary though to your credit, you picked up right away that I was unsure of the maximum number. Nothing gets by you, Dave.

Reply to
Dave in Houston

And how many kids will you have during your lifetime?

Bob

Reply to
Bob F

Ok, I understand that you have no evidence. I was guessing that was the case.

Matt

Reply to
Matt Whiting

And what the hell does that have to do with anything?

Reply to
Matt Barrow

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