Should architects be licensed?

Thanks to corrupt democrats and republicans our nation has become one governed by fascism. In the context of the profession of architecture the private sector associations like the American Institute of Architects actually write laws, pay politicians to pass them and viola! nobody can work designing or drafting without being a criminal or subjecting themselves to involuntary servitude in the hopes that they might be able to get a license.
The laws now require people who wish to do this type of work to indenture themselves to a licensed fascist. The licensed fascist has no obligation to hire, no obligation to assign the indentured servant to any job assignment and no obligation to acknowledge any hours of labor the servant has provided so as to meet the fascist requirements of the law.
Should architects be licensed? What purpose does licensing designers and drafters really serve?
Does fascism really help protect the safety, health and welfare of the public? Aren't any errors, ommissions or any other corrupt acts settled in the courts anyway?
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clintonG wrote: ...

Ignoring the all-too-apparent trolling attempt and making the (probably very rash) assumption there was at least a modicum of seriousness to the question, I'll simply ask in return--"Should we by the same logic not license medical practioners or commercial airline pilots, either?"
As for the latter question, the intent is to prevent (or at least minimize since it obvious that one can never reach perfection) the number of such incidents.
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Its not a trolling venture at all. Its a serious issue because fascism has become the form of government that is prevalent throughout our nation. Do we want a nation of fascists who are going to continue to determine arbitrarily who can and who can not work without becoming subjected to criminal prosecution simply on the basis of a phoney claim that licensing does this or does that? Where is the proof? There is none because the claim is a lie.
As for your questions regrading licensing others such as medical practitioners or commercial airline pilots the question is well taken and the answer is "of course" there should be some type of licensing which would be better stated as an objective as genuine credible credentialing processes rather than the arbitrary phoney fascist bullsh!t that fascists like the AIA and corrupt politicians have drafted into law.
There is no reason an architect must be licensed. None whatsoever. Licensing architects and interior designers is nothing more than fascism. I witnessed this in Wisconsin where I live and have been victimized by it myself.
For example, the U.S. government relocated thousands of Laoations in Wisconsin as a "favor" to pay them back for helping the jew bankers that started the Viet Nam war murder and assasinate tens of thousands of civilians who did not want to do business with jews bankers. We are told they were relocated here in Wisconsin because the geography is similar to their homeland and obviously their role as murdering assasines is not discussed. The Laotian men could not find jobs because they were illiterate and have no skills (not to mention racism) and the Laotian women started little businesses painting fingernails. Perhaps you recall the trend? Ever wonder why those businesses aren't around anymore?
As much as I despise the Laoations for what they did in Viet Nam the fat cunt "hair stylists" bought and paid for politicians to make laws to protect their licensed businesses and immediately outlawed painting finger nails because it was "dangerous" and had to be licensed to make sure the health of the person's who finger nails were being painted were "protected." Poof! No more businesses.
As for architects they have become nothing more than designers and drafters who do nothing hands-on with any life safety concerns other than look up the codes in books and make sure the drawings conform to specifications. Every mistake, error, or ommission or anything related to an corrupt business practice is always settled in court anyway and the claim about "less" is a lie that has not ever been substantiated.. Licensing architects does nothing except determine who can and who can not work at their chosen line of work.
A maverick attorney has become the president of the Wisconsin State B.A.R. and he and others are now involved in attempting to revise the law that requires lawyers from having to take and pass a B.A.R. exam. They know this is bullsh!t and so do I.
I support univeristy degree programs followed by rigorous testing followed by annual coursework or specialized requirements that are genuinely focused on credentialed credibility. Not any of this horsh!t that grandfathered all the existing architects except those like me stuck at the wrong point in time with one exam to go that now have to beg an employer for a job and then beg the employer for a job assignment to get credits the law requires for licensing.
Freedom and liberty to work is my objective and is supposed to be my constitutionally guaranteed right which also by law forbids involuntary servitude. Other people who love freedom and liberty must stand against the fascist pigs who have taken control of our nation and its to them I addressed this news article.
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Why didn't you just say you were pissed about this in the first place and spare us the rest of your anarchistic, racist drivel?
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I know I should ignore crazy clintonG but after he wrote this...

Not exactly... we voted these people into office. We (and that includes you Clinton) allowed this to happen.

Not exactly.... a licensed structural engineer can do all this as well.

Since architects specify and design building structures that human beings use, licensing gives at least some assurance that such person is competent and capable of designing a practical, usable and safe structure. Frank Lloyd Wright wasn't licensed. His designs looked great, but one home was described by a structural engineer as "not safe from the day it was built"
http://www.2blowhards.com/archives/000993.html

So, after your house fall down on you and kills half your family, just go to the courts and settle up?

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So how does that refute his contention that our nation is fascistic? Fascism can, and has many times, been VOTED in.
In his 1947 book "Planned Chaos", Ludwig von Mises laid out how the US was following the pattern of Nazi Germany and their style of fascism called "Zwangswirtschaft".
The book is on line at http://www.mises.org/web/2714 and can also be downloaded as a PDF file.
"Many advocates of interventionism are bewildered when one tells them that in recommending interventionism they themselves are fostering anti-democratic and dictatorial tendencies and the establishment of totalitarian socialism. They protest that they are sincere believers and opposed to tyranny and socialism. What they aim at is only the improvement of the conditions of the poor. They say that they are driven by considerations of social justice, and favour a fairer distribution of income precisely because they are intent upon preserving capitalism and its political corollary or superstructure, viz., democratic government. What these people fail to realize is that the various measures they suggest are not capable of bringing about the beneficial results aimed at. On the contrary they produce a state of affairs which from the point of view of their advocates is worse than the previous state which they were designed to alter. If the government, faced with this failure of its first intervention, is not prepared to undo its interference with the market and to return to a free economy, it must add to its first measure more and more regulations and restrictions. Proceeding step by step on this way it finally reaches a point in which all economic freedom of individuals has disappeared. Then socialism of the German pattern, the Zwangswirtschaft of the Nazis, emerges."
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I made a vow and will never ever vote for a demonrat or republicrat for the rest of my life. Ever. Especially at the local level. The political parties are organized crime syndicates and have become the "domestic enemies" the founders warned us about which has indeed come to pass.
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I don't want to argue the fact that a license is not required for that type of building which is also indicative of the fascist fraud that has become rampant throughout the Jewnited States but goint to court is exactly what we are compelled to do if such an event occurred anyway and there's never been any evidence -- ever -- that a license reduces or eliminates any risk to the safety, health and welfare of anybody.
Our government has become fascist and the fascists have guns they point at us both figuratively and literally to prevent people like me from doing what? Getting paid to draw a picture of a desk or a toilet? Are you f*cking crazy or are you just another filthy fascist pig who hates freedom and liberty?
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Lots of people in Wisconsin do what it takes to become working architects. You have a pattern of blaming others for your problems. The only reason you're not a working architect is you. Despite your racist views I will pray for you, but don't bother responding, you're now in the killfile, goodbye.
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Hey phoney religious sh!t for brains hypocrit. Kill file or not, blaming those who create problems is the whole point of speaking out and the scriptures tell us we are to speak out against evil.
I don't need support from a sissie anyway and most of you are all sissies and punks. You're going to bend over and let the emerging beast system shove their jew dick right up your tight little christian @sses and you're going to be to beg them to have their chip implanted into you. Because you are sissies. Because you love not the truth.
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Rx = decaf & Prozac
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clintonG wrote:

That's what you do for a living?

So if someone disagrees with you they're automatically a filthy fascist pig or crazy? Might it not be that they're just pointing out that you're acting like an asshole with such posts?
The other people - the ones that disagree with you - are just expressing themselves the same way you're doing. If you can't accept their viewpoint, why would you believe they'd accept yours? Because you're "right"? Please.
As in everything in life, you're either willing to do what it takes or you're not. No one ever said the world was fair and no one ever said it was built to make your life easy. There are going to be hoops to jump through. Make your choices, get over it and move on.
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We'll see what you have to say when they come for you. It will be a few more years until your rung of the ladder is reached but they're on their way and you are not going to mean jack sh!t to them. You will be told to stick a chip up your @ss and because you are a punk that is exactly what you will do.
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clintonG wrote:

The only chips that get put into my body have salsa on them, preferably medium-hot salsa.
If this country sucks so bad, and everybody who lives here is either a punk or a sissy (according to you), why are you still here? If it's so bad for you where you are, any place else would be an improvement, no? If it's that bad, and you are the free person you espouse to be, pick up and move.
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and because you are a punk that is exactly what you will

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He can't. He still lives with his mommie.
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clintonG wrote:

I am starting to think that people should need a license to post on usenet.
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snipped-for-privacy@juno.com wrote:

As Inspector Clouseau queried, "Do you have a lie-sance for your minkey?"
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Matt Barrow wrote:

Your minkey, you fuel! ;)
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