Complete nonsense. As long as your usage is within your service
capabilities you have no obligation to inform anyone of added loads.
In some jurisdictions you're required to (though few do) pull a permit
for electrical work, though in reality this is for *tax* purposes.
The power company doesn't know anything about it. You assume
government is looking out for something other than themselves.
Well, there's the confusion right there. Many utilities are in the
sector. For example, my "city" is Pittsfield Township. My electric
DTE Energy, a publicly traded corporation.
On 2/17/2010 1:00 PM Michael A. Terrell spake thus:
You've never heard of municipal power companies? Lessee, not far from
where I live, Palo Alto, Sacramento, and several others I can't think of
just at the moment run their own power systems within their cities.
Marin County just decided to set up a county-wide power authority. So
yes, in many places "the power utility is the city".
Now who's laughing?
You were wrong, and I'm man enough to admit it.
Yeah, but that's California where the word for government ownership of the
means of production is "normal."
Now my city owns the water system - and makes a small profit. The real
reason for city ownership, I've been told, is so the city can keep up with
buildings and so forth for tax purposes.
Several cities in that greatest of red states, Texas, own their electric
utilities, including the capital, Austin (a blue island in a sea of red). Also,
Garland, near Dallas, as red as you can get.
OK, when did red shift from liberal pinko commie red to god fearing conservative
When one of the TV networks news department painted a large US map on
the floor of their studio and chose red and blue for the two major
political parties for a presidential election. We know how liberal most
of MSM is.
I think it comes from the usual reaction of progressives when they don't get
their way: the hold their breath until they turn blue (sometimes accompanied
Conversely, conservatives maintain a healthy pink constitution. Sometimes
aided by home-made alcohol.
Doesn't say they aren't the same in some places, but it does say it
isn't true everywhere. Two cities near me by bulk electric, then rip
off residents and business by doubling the cost to everyone else in the
I guess we still are laughing because the real issue was that the
poster claimed utilities are routinely notified by residential
customers when they add significant loads to their homes. First he
claimed it was required of homeowners by utilities directly. Then he
claimed it was because you had to get a permit for electrical work.
Then he claimed that because his electric utility happens to be run by
the municipality, that when you get an electric permit, that counts as
notifying the utility.
No question there are some electric utilities owned and run by
municipalities. The rest of that is obvious hogwash. Any of us
that have actually pulled permits know that the permit doesn't ask for
or calculate the actual load. You get a permit to put in a new 50
amp sub-panel or a permit to put in six 15 amp circuits. Big deal,
what does that mean? It says nothing about what might or might not
actually be connected to those circuits, only the theoretical
maximum. And the utility already knows what the theoretical maximum
is. It's the service rating installed to the house, eg 200 amps.
Liers? You mean 'Liars', unless the 'P' fell off your Pliers. :)
It's more likely that they are not well trained. Any time I wanted
real answers, I contacted the city engineer or the engineers at what
ever utility was involved.
I just got a callback from a chief inspector at Seattle City Light. He quoted me
the part of the Seattle City Code that requires notification of load additions.
It is the law here. He also said, he didn't personally know who you would
notify. Generally, he said, they find out when service entrance updates are
done, since they hook up the power. But, by law, you are supposed to notify the
utility, and if you don't, you are responsible for repairs, if for instance, the
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