ROTFLMAO <wipes coffee from keyboard>
Checked out the rest of the site? Howard Roark get's his radical libertarian
ideas and rhetoric in bulk via the gov't sponsored internet...lol...Reminds
me of Lisa Simpson in an episode where she says of her brother's new earing,
"How rebellious!... in a conformist sort of way."
It's all "I, I, Me, Me, Mine" you realize, wrapped in conterfeit
rationalizations. Infantile in a way, except for the cover-up. They can't
just come out and say, "What's mine is mine, and what's yours is mine,
whenever it suits me."
The only thing I was thinking of in High School, was how I can get into some
girls pants, and how fun it would be to be able to draw as a job (i.e.
Architecture). Like I said, I don't agree with most of it, but I commend
him for going beyond what the books and his teachers tell him. I definitely
could not write the way he does at his age (I was a math nerd not an english
nerd). All the websites in the world can spout about anything they want,
that's what freedom of speech is for. It still doesn't mean it works.
You probably had a nice life, with lots of support. I was living alone at
16, reading the existentialists and Freudo-Marxists in high school. My point
about being infantile was not a condemnation of the kid and his youth, per
se. A lot of libertarian stuff strikes me as infantile, and hypocritically
self-serving. They're usually well-positioned 'haves' arguing against
sharing with disadvantaged 'have nots'. Not pretty.
The kid is probably parrot a significant older person.
It's called having a discussion without resorting to bashing the other guy,
and possibly learning something from it. You should try it some time. You
may have had a hard life, but not everyone sucks, not everyone is out to get
you. The world does not revolve around you...get that through your skull.
Everyone has their problems, not just you.
You are correct, I was fully supported as a child, I thank the stars and
everything that exists for my parents. I know not everyone has had what I
had. I try to repay in some small way what I have been given, by my parents
coming here illegally, by my dad being the strict person he was that led me
to not understand not to sway even a little from what I want, by my mom
always being there for me, and by all the people along the way that helped
How did you end up being alone at that age? It must have been hard, I could
not imagine it being different for me.
As for libertarianism, your right, but pretty much the whole of the entire
human race is an infant in it's growing stages, thinking it knows what's
right. It's funny in Don's reply he accuses you of doing the exact same
thing you accuse of him. We can't all be right I think. It may seem like
your right in some ways, he could be coming from what his dad taught him, or
someone he admires. He may just be really interested in the stuff. At
least he is young enough not to know better. Others, I'm not so sure about.
The argument is always about how those who are getting help obviously don't
deserve it. It's always about those that take risks and win, but never
about those that took a risk and lost it all, and ended up in some gutter.
No libertarian talks about that, and it's probably safe to say a libertarian
in such a position quickly changed his mind. Maybe only to change it back
when he felt comfortable again. Like I said, there are no truths, just the
full spectrum of ideas.
I wanted before to post with regards to Pascal's Wager before, but instead
considering the opposite. If we take the opposite view, we can posit that
it's almost plainly obvious that the whole religious thing has been made in
order to control man, and the truth could possibly be that there is nothing
after life. It can be then concluded that why not live this life to feel
and see everything it has to offer, whether it be amoral to society or not.
It seems to me, the serial killers of this world are not to far off in
insanity from some of the Christians of this world. I've never liked
extremes, always down the middle path, and it seems lately it is the path
It wasn't pretty, and the preoccupations of a few decades (including the
existentialists) reflect that fact. That's why I assumed what I did about
your base. It sounds like you had shelter *at* home....I spent a bunch of
time trying to devise shelter *from* home. It's probably one of the things
that pulled me into architecture. All went well after I was on my own. The
jack-boot thugs gave me a (barely) livable allowance while I finished high
school ; ) Then later the gave me and loaned me money to go to university.
Those bastards! Now I happily pay my probably higher taxes, knowing that
we're all connected, and haven't stopped to think of the ROI they got by
investing in me, but it must be pretty good. In a word, I'm grateful to my
city, my province, and my country.
DOWN BY THE HENRY MOORE
I walked down to Kensington Market
Bought me a fish to fry
I went to the Silver Dollar
Looked a stranger in the eye
A friend of mine says
That he don't think this town's so out of sight
But he's got shades 'round his soul
And he thinks he's seen the light
Singin' don't you want to keep on moving
Don't you want to get undone
Don't you want to change from losing
Don't you want to have some fun
The previous neo-conservative provincial government eliminated the program
that put me through high school, among other things, and then sent me a $200
check a few years back. The province (schools, hospitals, etc.) went to
$hit, the electorate bounced the rednecks, and I would definitely support
reinstituting the program, among others, and give them back the money.
There's a balancing act between the levels of taxation, the quality of life,
and the health of the economy. You can go too far in either direction.
People do, I speak to someone who poses Pascal's wager anytime the subject
of atheism comes up. I prefer my self respect, and if there is a God, he
gave you a brain to think with, why would you not use one of his gifts. Of
course, I don't believe it for a second, there are ideas in Quantum Physics
regarding multiple dimensions I'd take more seriously than any religions
Not even down the middle, the majority of talking heads are just extremists
in nice clothing. There will never be anything else without compromise, but
those people are unwilling to do such things. A lot of people don't seem to
be willing to do it, because they know their side is "right".
I don't know if you have ever been interested in philosophy but those type
of questions get asked a lot. Can God make a box he can't fit in? The one
I always come back to myself, personally, is if god is omni-everything, does
it not lead one to conclude that God is the purest good, and the purest of
evil? Doesn't really matter though, words, language, all of that is a human
construct, with all its faults. Philosophy was one of my favorite subjects
in College, though it was very tough, I didn't do all that great. It has
led me to the belief though, that the world is most definitely not black and
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