Re: Converge

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On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 16:55:34 GMT

Don,
I think that everyone is in agreement on this wholly, if they aren't they got their head up somewhere big time.....
Thanks for saying it Don.
SG
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Don wrote:

At the level of the individual soldier, I would think they might get much more satisfaction out of doing something for their own fellow citizens who might actually appreciate it, rather than "attempting" to help some person in another country who doesn't really want them there in the first place.
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Cato wrote:

Right. I'd rather have a job where the guy I was trying to help wasn't trying to kill me. And for the trigger happy, there'd still be plenty of looters to shoot.
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Okey Dokey. I'll keep that in mind next time one of my friends who was stationed in Iraq tells me something as silly as "the iraqis didn't want them there". They must have been reading the mainstream media as well. I guess the Iraqis must have been reading the same media sources to know how to act as well. LOL
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whopptee doo.......compared to the several I know who had the iraqis tell them how thankful they were that they were there. Keep drinking the kool aid.

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P. Fritz wrote:

Exactly what kool-aid is required to get that crazy thought in my head? Sound yummy, does it come in cherry flavor?
whopptee doo right back at ya. Where they being told that in the safety of the Green Zone? Maybe in the far north or south? I'm just going by what I've heard from multiple sources stationed in different parts of the country. I've heard this from Marines as well as some in the Army. Maybe my friends didn't get to go to the 'friendlier' parts of the country.
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Well, that article is painting quite a rosey picture. You can search all other types of "non-mainstream" media sources that can show just the opposite. There are good and bad areas. Just as there are some who want the US to be there, but there are also many who don't want them there. They have no say in the matter. Would you want some foriegn troops in your country, eventhough they say they are there with the best of intentions, in your neighborhood? Nobody wants to be occupied. Time may tell whether this should have been done, but at what eventual cost? Believe it or not, I'm not hoping for failure in Iraq, quite the opposite. Just being realistic about the situation.
I'm really not trying to cherry pick your article, but one quote caught my eye. "Many of Iraq's adults may long ago have grown tired of seeing American troops on their streets, but soldiers in the area of Najaf, about 80 miles south of Baghdad, say the country's children are different."
Let's hope the kids can maintain their sunny dispositions as they get older.
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Disagree. The "shouldness" of something does not (should not, can not, must not) rely on the outcome.
Heck, even the "left liberals" don't believe the ends justifies the means. I mean, heck, if they did, they'd be rushing to steal more of my money and pour it into religious charities.

Surely some of them have shite dispositions.
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gruhn wrote:

I wasn't referring to 'should' in the moral sense, I was thinking more in the geopolitical sense. Morals very rarely get brought into that one. ;-)

LOL sunni dispositions? Forgot my spellcheck.
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Funny, the "sense" didn't even enter my head.
Sure, it's after something's done we usually say "oops, I shouldn't have done that" but hindsight is 20/20.
I'm reminded (again) of the people who said "See, Y2K was no big thing, you shouldn't have spent billions trying to fix it."
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gruhn wrote:

Are you psychic? Don't give your skills away for free, there's money to be made out there.
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On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 21:41:52 GMT

Gruhn,
Left Liberals aren't a problem, it's the "admin" and their oil buddies keeping the money away from the U.S.
Left=correct Right=Wrong
Get it straight.
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You have no idea, guy. Leave it alone.
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On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 01:13:48 GMT

Don,
Excellent, very inspirational!
Now I have soo much to look forward to with that TRULY positive outlook on life here in the U.S.
Thanks again, now I can rest easy.
SG
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life here in the U.S.

Word up. If you can't make nice utopian speeches full of inspiration and panda sex than don't say anything all.
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On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 18:44:57 -0700

I hope he got the message, I agree gruhn.
SG
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wrote:

You're not *supposed* to rest. Freedom is maintained only by vigilance. The minute you nod off, someone is already waiting to sneak in and rob you of your freedom.
To be American is to be vigilant, to fight to maintain freedom, and not just for oneself.
There is no "rest easy".
And yet, the harder the work, the greater the rewards. Go figure.
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wrote:

Power corrupts; abosolute power corrupts absolutely.
At this point, I don't think either is right. What is lacking is a sense of balance.
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You mean, like in Newark? Or Houston? Or even (can you imagine?) in Toronto or London or Paris...?
There are even rumors of a few French people who like Americans...

Yup.
Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.

Hard for kids to do these days.
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