> >> building codes have no applicability to property not connected to a
> >> public utility
> >
> > is that so, do you have a citation?
>
> All building codes have some nexus with attachment to a public utility.
> For example, I found one municipality's ordinances state that once you
> attach to the public water and sewer, the city gets a lien (whether you
> paid or not) on your property.
>
> Historically speaking, the first building code was in NYC, empowered when
> the building owner attached to the city water and sewer.
>
> Another "interesting" item, if your property has no "address", many
> utilities will not connect, because they can't send a bill. Some will
> connect if you prepay your account.
>
>
> > Very groovy if true. I thought
> > that the building codes rest upon the general police power to enforce
> > standards public safety, just as (eg) restaurant inspection does. >
> Restaurants are "licensed" (civil liberty).
> There is no delegation of power to "regulate" private property. Real estate
> is not private property.
>
> > You
> > cannot get a get-out-of-jail card for your (eg) slaughterhouse by
> > disconnecting from the utility grids. The USDA veterinarians don't need
> > any such nexus to go in your establishment.
>
> Such commercial establishments are licensed. If you had a private
> slaughterhouse, you would not be obligated.
>
> Re: Private property
>
> Most people impair their right to own because they presume "All land" is
> real estate. In fact, there's a specific note in the definition for land
> (see below) that an estate in land is land for a time, not perpetual. >
> If you don't believe it, here are the legal definitions.
>
> "REAL ESTATE .... is synonymous with real property"
> Black's Law dictionary, sixth ed., From p.1263
>
> "REAL PROPERTY ... A general term for lands, tenements,
> heriditaments; which on the death of the owner intestate,
> passes to his heir."
> Black's Law dictionary, sixth ed., p.1218
>
> "ESTATE - The degree, quantity, nature and extent of
> interest which a person has in real and personal property.
> An estate in lands, tenements, and hereditaments signifies
> such interest as the tenant has therein."
> Black's Law dictionary, sixth ed., p.547
>
> Real estate = estate = real property.
>
> Contrast with:
>
> PRIVATE PROPERTY - As protected from being taken for public
> uses, is such property as belongs absolutely to an
> individual, and of which he has the exclusive right of
> disposition. Property of a specific, fixed and tangible
> nature, capable of being in possession and transmitted
> to another, such as houses, lands, and chattels.
> - - Black's Law dictionary, sixth ed., p.1217:
>
> What is the significant difference?
> Owner and type of ownership.
>
> Who is the _owner_?
>
> Real Estate => person
>
> Private property => individual
>
> Private property is owned absolutely by an individual.
>
> Estate is the interest in property by a person such as a
> corporation, or a tenant.
>
> Private property is the "houses, lands, and chattels" owned
> absolutely by an individual.
>
> Real estate / Real property is "lands, tenements,
> heriditaments" a person or tenant has an interest in.
>
> WHAT IS INTEREST?
>
> INTEREST - ...More particularly it means a right to have the
> advantage of accruing from anything ; any right in the
> nature of property, but less than title.
> Black's Law dictionary, sixth ed., p.812
>
> Title - "The formal right of ownership of property..."
> Black's Law dictionary, sixth ed., p.1485
>
> BTW, a "title deed" is not a title.
>
> Real estate / Real property is "lands, tenements,
> heriditaments" a person or tenant has NO formal right of ownership
> of property - only the advantages from it.
>
> PROPERTY TAX - "An ad valorem tax, usually levied by a city
> or county, on the value of real or personal property that
> the taxpayer owns on a specified date."
> Black's Law dictionary, sixth ed., p.1218
>
> Real property = real estate = estate.
>
> There ARE no property taxes on private property ownership, else it would
> violate the ABSOLUTE rights of the OWNER.
> Please note that the tax is levied upon the taxpayer, not the land. Land has
> no duty to pay a tax.
>
> This explains the recent Supreme Court ruling on the condemnation of estate
> for private parties, under eminent domain. No private property issue was
> before the court. Remember, the fifth amendment only refers to PRIVATE
> PROPERTY, not estate.
>
> "... nor shall private property be taken for public use without just > compensation..."
> - - - Fifth amendment
>
> Unpaid taxes on "real estate" can result in confiscation, whereas
> private property is defined as being protected from being taken for public
> use without just compensation. Sadly, most Americans record their "title
> deed" with the Real Estate registry. Coincidentally, there is no law
> compelling the recording of private property. But all "real estate"
> transactions must be recorded.
>
> "OWNERSHIP - ... Ownership of property is either absolute or qualified. The
> ownership of property is absolute when a single person has the absolute
> dominion over it... The ownership is qualified when it is shared with one or
> more persons, when the time of enjoyment is deferred or limited, or when the
> use is restricted."
> - - -Black's Law dictionary, sixth ed., p. 1106
>
> LAND. ... The land is one thing, and the estate in land is another thing,
> for an estate in land is a time in land or land for a time.
> - - -Black's Law dictionary, sixth ed., p.877
>
> If you are surprised to learn that everything you thought you knew about
> land and property rights was incorrect, perhaps it is because of national > socialism.
>
> SOCIALISM - A political and economic theory advocating collective
> ownership of the means of production and control of distribution.
> It is based upon the belief that all, while contributing to the
> good of the community, are equally entitled to the care and
> protection which the community can provide.
> - - - Webster's Dictionary
>
> Neither Socialism, nor Communism tolerate individual private ownership.
> Both espouse collective ownership. If you enrolled into national socialism,
> you don't have private property rights.