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Hello
I'm reviewing a potty parity web page that refers to the building codes. http://americanrestroom.org/parity/index.htm
It dicusses the code for the minumum number of toilet fixtures. Does anyone know if there are sections in the building codes that discuss efficiency of the floor plan?
Thanks
Mary
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If women weren't so shy the bathrooms could all be unisex.
Building codes never address efficiency - they only think they do. Bathroom utilization is very similar to traffic utilization - it only takes one slow poke to mess up a drop off point.
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...about some of the "boys" neglecting to lift the toilet seat, thereby "liquidating some of their assets" upon it and sometimes around and about, due to splatter...

Word to the boys: Lift the seat and flush first (which seems to disrupt surface tension and creates foam, which also helps to reduce splatter) while you liquidate if you want to stand, OR sit your ass down on your own dried-up liquid while you get a feel for the other way.

We can all get periodically slowed down by the runs. Our hearts should go out to the odd slow poke. ;)
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Boy did this go off topic (architecture) quick
Hello
I'm reviewing a potty parity web page that refers to the building codes. http://americanrestroom.org/parity/index.htm
It dicusses the code for the minumum number of toilet fixtures. Does anyone know if there are sections in the building codes that discuss efficiency of the floor plan?
Thanks
Mary
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How so? You can't separate architecture from people. Architecture without people is sculpture. If you're looking for some theoretical ideal to hang your hat on, it's not architecture and it won't hold your hat anyway.

I know there are not.

You can nail down a dimension, you can't nail down a definition of efficiency - particularly when you're talking about using a bathroom, and you certainly won't get a something as subjective as bathroom efficiency codified. Code is meant to provide the minimum acceptable construction information. If someone wants to make a bathroom stall bigger, no one will say boo.

I guess you haven't been in a McD's in some years. The average person waddling through the doors is tipping the scales at a substantially higher weight than they used to.
I was quite serious when I was talking about the whole modesty thing. Here's your typical ancient Roman public toilet.
http://blog.sellsiusrealestate.com/wp-content/roman-toilet.gif
It is a very good design for a number of reasons. It's half a urinal, half a toilet, there's a built in gutter because, hey, no one's perfect, and you take whatever available seat you want.
Parity doesn't get any better than that.
R
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I just about have to stand up on the toilet bowl's edge in some places just to swing open the inward-swinging door and I'm a fairly lithe 5'8". Handicap stalls, which are usually more spacious, also have doors that swing outward. I usually choose to use them. There are other benefits to having more stall space, such as with regard to noise and smells. Peace-of-mind needs to be factored into some cost-benefit analyses.

Ya and look how many people are currently using them. ;P
If you think of 'a room of one's own' for a toilet stall, you've got something.
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Google some of the serious squat toilet sites sometime, you'll be enlightened I'm sure. Yes, it is science and medical at its base. I was convinced, but I'm not ready to construct a scaffold over our toilets just yet.
Confused? Do the google.
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Man, that water's cold.
Yeah, deep too.
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"Ken S. Tucker"> wrote:

The stalls are mainly unused by the average McD's patron - quite simply - they don't fit. In swing door that just barely passes the front of the bowel, 8" wide 24" diameter toilet paper dispenser, all of the real estate is already occupied. No way a 300 lb waddling whale can get in there and if they do manage to wedge their disgustingly flaccid cakes onto the porcelain they are so pinched together its impossible for anything less than very loose diarhea under extremely high pressure to escape with the expected jet- like force lifting said patron entirely off the piss encrusted seat.
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If you haven't read The Omnivore's Dilemma, you should. A very good read and extremely interesting. One of the points made was that corn was "weaponized". Not for use as a weapon, but meant to insure a steady supply of food so the industrial-military complex. Kind of weird sounding, but the theory has some legs.
Essentially taking a staple food source and making it into an ingredient in something like 75% of the food consumed in the US is a route source of the obesity problem (among many others). Having huge amounts of subsidized corn insured feed for animals and cheap food. Cheap does not mean healthy.
Cows are fed corn - something that they have little ability to digest. Something like 75% of cows slaughtered have liver disease. Cows have evolved to eat grass. Attempting to control their consumption and increase their weight with growth hormones and unnatural foodstuffs, not to mention the conditions in which they are raised, creates health problems for the cows. And we gladly chow down on them so we can have $5 steaks and $1 hamburgers.
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If we get a cow like I want it will eat nothing but lobster and sam adams beer and be completely massaged by hand, trice daily, by adolescent oriental gurlz. I want a jersey one, to make cheese and buddah.
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wrote:

Have you ever had Kobe beef? In Manhattan you'll see specials advertised. A pound of their premium grade and a pound of their middling grade for two hundred bucks. Wagyu is an even higher grade. There's a hibachi-type steak house near where my sister's head office is, and they have a neat little hibachi built into the table and some _damn_ good steak. I always liked cooking my own meat. Even if I mess it up a bit, it still tastes better than having it come out of some kitchen. You can order any of a number of thinly sliced meats and cook it up. Damn, now my stomach is rumbling!
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When I was a kid I read a book a night. I found it more enjoyable than studying. Now I probably don't read more than 50 or 60 books a year. I usually have several going at once.

I agree with you - I really like corn. Only problem is that they put it and its byproducts in everything nowadays. If you see an ingredient on a label and you're not sure what it is, it's probably a corn derivative. http://www.ontariocorn.org/classroom/products.html
You know the old saying about not putting all of your eggs in one basket? Well, we're putting all of our diets in the corn basket - and the basket is made out of corn as well.
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Google a dood named Dr Mercola. I've been reading his newsletter for the past couple years and he seems to have a pretty good idea about the nutritional disaster being perpetrated in the US. Corn is being altered, before and after the fact, in lots of ways and used in just about everything these days. The fructose from corn is substituted for sugar across the board and as Marcello said a few years ago is at the base of the obesity *epidemic*. Just recently I read that as people become obese the bacteria in their intestines *evolve* to accomodate the diet and therefore it become more difficult to lose the weight, the bacteria are working against you. Also, much of the unnecessary chemicals that have been put in food your whole life for preservative purposes is undigestible and remains trapped in your intestines building up over the years and causing all sorts of problems. I don't agree with everything Mercola says but I have cross referenced him quite a bit and have learned he's not an idiot with an agenda or if he is he keeps it well concealed and hasn't gypped me off yet. heh
And don't get me started on soy...corns biggest competitor and the cause of mass pussification on a global scale.
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I likes me some corn every now and then, 'specially if it hasn't been genetically modified. Just last night I had 2 giant ears of local tri-color corn on the cobs swimmin in 100% buddah and laminated with sea salt. Mmmmmmmmmm....... Was very satisfied on the throne this morning too.... :-)
I eat lots of oatmeal in the cold months and suffuse it with pure maple syrup. I mix my oatmeal 4 to 1 with farina, sprinkle it with madagascar cinnamon, 5 to 1 milk and water, then the maple, and a couple huge spoons of brown sugar. dawgeez......
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BTW: That creamed corn comes in a can, so look at that list of chemicals on the side of the can thats mixed in with it. They live rent free in your colon til you die. I eat the stuff too, but rarely.
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Knee high by the 4th of July. This year I'm gonna eat it right off the stalk right on the spot. They say that'll make you shoot holes all the way through the headboard. The inside of the cans are lined with plastic, a petroleum based product that leaches into the product and is not digestible.
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Actually they are lined with a thin enamel coating. Not usually plastic as plastic would melt in the canning process. The heat of sterilization would do a lot of damage to a plastic coating.
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I wouldn't know about plastic baby bottles. I have never seen any put in a pressure cooker. I imagine that under pressure and high heat they would soften up pretty well. Although the plastic in the bottles is much thicker than the lining of a can, so it might hold up... for a little while.
Hm. Wish I was still working for the cannery, that could be fun in the verticle retort... put a plastic baby bottle in one of the baskets and see if it survives. Couldn't put one in a continous retort, it wouldn't fit in the track and would probably jamb the machine.
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You are either using words loosely and creating confusion, or you yourself are confused. Enamel usually refers to fused glass (vitreous), or a paint with a similar sheen. The first is an exact description, the second a rather vague one. Everyday cans are not lined with fused glass in this day and age, and I tend to doubt that "paint" (another loose term) was ever used, so I do not know what exactly the enamel was on the packages you worked with back when.
Cans are lined with plastic. Check out some of Georgia Pacific's offerings: http://www.gp.com/Chemical/indres_coat.asp?RC=1&BS=187 |Coil/Food%20Can%20Coatings|186|Coil/Food%20Can%20Coatings&DC=1|Industrial%20Resins
Notice the words acrylic, polyester, vinyl. epoxy and phenolic. These are plastics as they all undergo polymerization. That is the basic definition of a plastic. Some of them are thermoset and others are thermoplastic, but they are all plastics, and that is what lines every can you buy from the store.
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