Buildings I had to love when I was in school, and why...

I'll start: First year (socialist-behavioralists):
http://www.bc.edu/bc_org/avp/cas/fnart/Corbu/savoye1.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit%C3%A9_d%27Habitation http://www.greatbuildings.com/buildings/Amsterdam_Orphanage.html Second year (reformed behavioralists, born-again modernists):
http://www.bc.edu/bc_org/avp/cas/fnart/fa267/kahn/kahnlib1.jpg
http://www.ura.gov.sg/skyline/skyline05/skyline05-05/text/pg2.html http://www.bartonmyers.com/WOLF_01.htm http://www.bartonmyers.com/MYERS_01.htm Third Year (rationalists, post modernists): http://eng.archinform.net/projekte/251.htm?scrwdt 80 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89tienne-Louis_Boull%C3%A9e http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississauga_Civic_Centre Fourth Year (fascists): http://www.greatbuildings.com/buildings/Casa_del_Fascio.html http://www.discountmilano.com/tour/Classico/Galleria/index.html Fifth Year: They sorta stopped pushing stuff on me, so I can't remember...
Scary, isn't it?
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The classes have been pretty good at not making me feel that I had to like something.
"Design Principles" (props to Rich Griswold) in particular. He is very careful to note that students are more than welcom to dislike something; that he does not necessarily show something because he is presenting it as good. Some he openly disses but most he leaves opinion for the student and merely explains what is interesting/ important/educational about a given work. The histories have been on the dry side or, at times, the controversial side. That is "this building is important and everybody gets to look at it because..." or "Bob said this and designed this. Now Steve said something entirely else. Note the controversy between Bob and Steve. What would Steve think of Bob's building?"
I've never been shut down for saying "Well, Corb says thus and so yet his buildings seem to contradict that in practice" and the like.
The things we must revere come about more from the casual discussions. Saw a film in studio though that gave me the idea that a certain piece of crap was "really good" not just "really good at illustrating an idea." Of course, if a building exemplifies exemplary design behaviour then it must be good. Even if it's a pile of crap. Ne?
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In first year, we used to have a saying, "Corb did it, so it must be OK" Where did you go to school?
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It's been too long for me to remember specifics, except I do remember:
1) They tried damn hard to make me like it and failed miserably. 2) Anything by "Corbu" was perfect and to be emulated. 3) Kahn was great, but not as great. 4) Mies, was far superior to Wright. 5) Wright was whispered as they whisper "Voldemort" in the Potter books. 6) I did have one professor who tried to get the school to issue Wrightian capes to the students and professors. He was serious--and I supported the idea because I thought it would have been a laugh (and I wanted a cape). 7) What annoyed me most, and still does to this day (as it continues in the trade rags) is that simply stating an idea makes it valid. If a building "does X" because I said a building "did X", then it was so.
8) My own experience taught me that the best buildings are most often those that are not well known and by "lessor" architects. I also learned that unless you've been in the building and talked to those that use it, you have NO idea what it is as "Architecture." Sculpture, maybe. But to architecture, if by architecture you mean "structures that people inhabit".
9) I was able to get a professor to be so incensed by what I wrote that he crumpled it up and stuck it to his tack board with a knife. It is probably my proudest moment from architecture school.
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Ah, the BS factor. We actually have a bit of a contraversy brewing here in TO. A steadily more pretentious newspaper critic, and the usual suspects attacking on of their own who has grown into a local titan. The rhetoric is all there, just like the old days. http://tinyurl.com/2qzljm

Sounds like our experiences were very similar. I wrote a paper where I compared the 'good guys' with some 'bad guys' under the an existential lens that showed them both as ultimately doing the opposite of what they said they were doing. It was pretty good for first or second year. I got an A for it but it was never returned. I've often wondered what happened to it.....
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BAC has one required second semester class where the lecturer tries to include a FLW example each week and makes fair comments re: FLW's innovations and incompetencies.
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gruhn wrote:

Fair enough... Good with the bad. The problem with my school was FLW was unspeakable, for good or ill, and those who were speakable, were so due to their perceived perfection.
A little "fair and balanced" would have helped.
But, then again, I'm not sure I really cared. I'd learned how to learn and learned what was important to learn, not what they wanted me to learn...
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When I was a Junior in college the Columbiana tried to make me love Corbu's Villa Savoye. And I must confess, one could do worse in buildings to be forced to love.
At Rice as a grad student, there was the afore mentioned Moneo building.
There was Gunnar Birkerts Contemporary Arts Museum in Houston.
Kahn's Phillips Exeter Library was in there.
I'm sure there were others. I just can't remember them. Probably a blessing.

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I guess we're gettin' old. Stern was the anti-Christ. Doesn't that seem funny 20 years later?
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Michael Bulatovich wrote:

Stern? Who's he? His name was one that would get you kicked out of school. They didn't even want you thinking he existed... we weren't even allowed to criticize his work---because he wasn't supposed to exist.
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Ditto. One who was considered HUGE at our SOA was Louis Kahn. Mostly due to 2 or 3 full professors coming from the Philly area and the Penn connection.
We would often say, "That's what LOU would DO!!!"
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Amazingly similar experiences! I once cried out of the back of a lecture theatre when the speaker dared to mention his name as an anathema, "I'm with Stern!".
The room roared with laughter.
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Michael Bulatovich wrote:

What's most scary about it is that I think we're all about 10 years apart in our school experiences. Nothing's changed in all that time. I expect to see more crap being peddled as "good architecture" in the coming decades. I suspect it'll be another 40-50 years before we can hope for a significant change...
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When did you graduate? I'm '87, or as they say at UofT, 8T7.
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Michael Bulatovich wrote:

'97
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I credit Stern's "Pride of Place" tv show with being important for getting me to think architecture.
Sure, I gravitated towards it because of a latent interest but it mayn't have stuck w/o him.
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Whoever said Mengoni was a fascist architect did you a disservice. The Galleria is nearly 50 years before there was fascism in Italy. The Galleria is really electic, and is a product of Italy's Gilded Age, which was a bit earlier than America's, by 10-15 years. Terragni was more a Rationalist than a fascist. Piacentini was more Fascist than Rationalist.
When I was in school, it was Corb, Kahn, Venturi, Eisemann, Meier, Graves, in roughly that order of priority of importance. I preferred Van Eyck and Gaudi. Later I came to appreciate the Renaissance architects. Now I'm working my way backwards from Art Nouveau period.
As a kid (12-14), I thought Soleri was cool. Now he's just quaint.
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I meant my teachers, not the architects cited. (Sorry) One of them had a "thing" for 'arcades' and so we did a studio on them.

See above note about teachers.

I really like Norman Shaw and Lutyens. It strikes me as a very 'free' period.
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