Hopefully they keep their expounding on it to a manageable, lint-free level.
I argue along with my prof, that the single note (plus silence) is a
He could have, and not necessarily walked off, but continued to play another
SRV: "Now I'd like to play for you a piece that I just composed that I call,
'The Minimalist Mix'. "
*... (silence)... (SRV looking contemplative)... (more silence)...
the capital 'N's' help to visually-represent the harmonics and frequencies,
etc., as they change over time]... fades slowly out)... (silence)... (more
SRV (breaks into a smile): "Thank you!!"
(plot twist: the audience's applause, as they will discover at the end of
the concert, is being captured as part of that piece.)
By itself? Probably not. I think you need context. Relativity.
I would be cautious about claiming to know.
Again, likewise. It might help to ask that 30 y/o what they think. Inquiry,
follow-up, stuff like that.
Also, the single note (which we will qualify as it having a 'time' and
'silence' component) does seem to satisfy the definitional requirements of
both my prof's as well as Wikipedia's (if you'll pardon the "extra-long
"Music is conceptual time expressed in the structures of tones and silence.
It is the exploration of time in complex generative forms through rigorous
construction of patterns and combinations of natural stimuli like sound.
Music is a human activity which involves structured and audible sounds,
which is used for artistic or aesthetic, entertainment, or ceremonial
purposes. Definitions vary in different cultures and social milieus."
It belittles not only the performer, but also the composer.
When anything is called art, then nothing can be art. Except, of course,
that true Art is not dependent upon elaborate pseudophisophical word games.
The "single note" thing was the sort of stuff I was exposed to in my
university philosophy classes - it didn't sit right with me then, and it
still doesn't, for the reasons you stated, and I slightly expanded.
It can be called a statement, or a protest, and the like - but IMO,it's not
Art to stick an object into a biological waste product.
Why would it?
The composer begins with a single note as the hiker begins with a single
step. In that sense, if anything, the single note celebrates the
composer and the song at the same time. In one fell swoop. Ingenious if
you ask me. Fundamental.
What do you mean you expanded?
It seemed to sit well with me-- a bit of a digest, perhaps-- but what
may have helped was that it may not have been really, or just, a single
note per se at all, but also the context within which it was effected.
In a sense it was more than the sum of its "part", and therefore more
than just one note.
Maybe your prof demonstrated it differently or something, too.
Nevertheless, I think I understand how someone interpreting a work in
isolation from its context, and/or with a tendency to do so, whether a
"single note" or "blob on a canvas", might have difficulty seeing it as
art, especially if the work depended more than usual on its context or
was "fundamental" in some way.
Maybe your "expansion" had to do with some distractive bloating you were
suffering that day. Perhaps you would have been more receptive to
Of couse not. But you can't hike without doing so.
If an artist decided to celebrate The Hiker in a work, they might choose to
express it, to personify it, in a way that demonstrates the importance of
the walk via the first step.
You bring up a baby's first step: A perfect example. What parent wouldn't
deem that as a small revolution worthy of artistic personification?
Hey that's cool, I did exactly that last summer in Ottawa...
Around June 4rth. especially, the trees and meadows along a stretch of a
bike path was lit up practically like Christmas lights with them.
I sat down on a bench closeby to enjoy, and caught some bats circling
overhead as dark silhouettes against the still-light, but
darker-side-of-twighlight sky. Because bats have very sensitive hearing, one
might want to be quiet and let them hunt, so out of curiosity, I made two
very light ticking sounds with tongue if one flew over a certain spot in the
air above me, and for a brief time, I swear I got them curious enough to fly
over the same spot far more than if by random chance.
We're rapidly approaching our twighlight years, Don. Enjoy times like these
while you can.
Yup ;) ! Analagous, i.e., making an analogy between things. Can be used
as a descriptive term, as in, "speaking analagously..."
Although, in the end, what actually happens is that people reject Art
because they figure they aren't "sufficiently intellectual", and end up
going back to.......well, often, actual Art.
The crux of the matter for me is that, having seen and heard works of art
that were so powerful they just about left me shaking, and changed my
world-view, there is no way I can personally define some of the trite,
meaningless nonsense I see as "Art", any more than I can call someone a
"leader" just because this or that hierarchy gave their buddy a promotion.
I guess I've just been around long enough to see too dang many con jobs,
too much BS, too frequent cases where flash was given more credence than
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Art is a Heavy creature , today a sad Cow but tomorrow the means of
perfection the joy of beauty ,new cheap safe houses and a mountain of
money. Art come in small buckets these day's 20 years after Bilbao ,
architecture still deal more with spetacular display and Innovation in
academic vocabular, ------- Robots ; just mimic working Peopla , Viola
hokus Pokus now we "Build" digital , we rewrote exactly what was here
into computer cods, why didn't that create a new architecture ?
The strange thing is, that when I mention 3D-H ,some think of it as a
method , that in 20 years will be reconised as genious and innovative,
just the right thing to solve a lot of problems ---- but will they
reconise no, Romans never do youi can tell them where to dig from a
mountain of money, they rather charge you a parking fee, as it can be
processed in a pyramide.
That's ok. My anscestors were likely far too preoccupied with the immediate
than to be concerned with the Medici and their burgeoning religious
commercial art industry down south.
...For some odd reason, your posts, remind me of that guy in that Ikea
commercial we once got here in Canada:
(creamer gets accidentally knocked to the floor and breaks...)
Enter Ikea Guy (I think he's just outside the window on a bike):
"Feel sorry for the little creamer? That's because you're crazy... Tacky
items can easily be replaced with better Ikea."
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